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    Yep, definitely the ones J&K sell.

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    Amori,

    This one came from Goldner Walsh in Pontiac. I did get a N. maxima "Not" from J&K, it turned out to be N. x gentle. Still another nice plant.

    Glenn

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    Yup, that's Deroose's N. tobaica from tissue culture that is widely available. Of course, it's a hybrid and NOT the species. As Tony said, it has ventricosa in it. Deroose names their plants for the retail market after the pod bearing female plant, therefore this is N. tobaica x ? (looks like ventricosa).
    Please note, this is not N. emmarene. N. emmarene is a hybrid that was made in Miami by Ron Pratt, it is N. khasiana x ventricosa. Looks similar, but true N. emmarene is a larger plant with larger pitchers than the Deroose "tobaica". N. burkei is extremely rare, and it is doubtful if there are too many hybrids with it - if at all.
    Glenn, nice lookin' plant.

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    That is a very nce looking Nep you have there
    [img]http://home.**********.com/users/pondboy/Neps/Neps%20sig..JPG[/img]

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    Trent,

    How do you account for the mottled pitchers? Tobaica and ventricosa don't have this type of coloring. Perhaps it is a complx hybrid with a third plant. I have seen people suggesting that this hybrid may have khasiana in it. Any thoughts?

    Glenn

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    is khasiana spotted?
    https://www.instagram.com/hull.jess/ (I post pics of my plants there)

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    Jess,
    Yes. N. khasiana has markings that are very similar to the N. 'tobaica NOT'.
    Glenn,
    It could possibly be a more complex hybrid. The exact parentage is proprietary information. We have seen N. ventricosa with spots. Anyone know of spotted tobaicas? Also, N. emmarene is a possible pollen parent. Being that N. emmarene plants were distributed widely and can be found in many of the European collections (and Deroose could have obtained a hybrid with it easily).

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    By the way, on BobZ's photo finder, found some photos of some beautifully spotted N. tobaica.

    The real N. emmarene is also on the photo finder. Unfortunately, some misinformed people have been calling this tobaica hybrid N. emmarene also, which only helps add confusion to the Nepenthes hybrid mess.
    [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img]

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