I couldn't beleive it! I was at a local specialty nursery and they had N. alata (so it said, easily ventrata). These are full grown mature flowering Neps with all having 6 or more growth points and all originals still. They are $30 so I didn't get one but they were remarkably good lookin. Looks as if they have been taken care of, they do keep the humidity high in there. All pitchers were fresh lookin, no crispies.