are these guys related? i have both that opened their first pitchers for me this week. one thing that popped in my head that if your took overal color and color patterns out of the equation the only major difference between the two was the fact that the veitchii is "fuzzy" and the bongso isnt. lid shape, peristrome shape, overal configuration, everything i can see is identical other than veitchii is covered in hairs. the veitchii also has a broader peristrome but not by a whole lot. so any one have opinions. i know bongso is supposed to be fairly close to ovata and spathulata but could veitchii fit in there somewhere too?