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    These photos are taken from a Japanese Nepenthes site (S-Yamada) on which they are simply listed as "Nepenthes sp". I wonder if anyone could help identify them. I've got a few ideas of my own, but would first like to hear what you guys think.

    "Nepenthes sp" from the Philippines:

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04696.jpg

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04692.jpg

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04676.jpg

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04695.jpg

    "Nepenthes sp" from Borneo:

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04675.jpg

    "Nepenthes sp" from Sumatra:

    http://yamadanouenn.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sc01426.jpg

    Simply labelled "Nepenthes sp":

    http://yamadanouenn.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sam00703.jpg

    Look forward to hearing your views,
    Nep_grower.

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    Sorry for posting this topic twice. I've been having some trouble with my internet connection. Please feel free to delete one of the copies.

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    The second Philippines plant looks kind of like faizaliana but I would need to see more of the leaf to be sure.

    The final one looks more like a truncata x ventricosa hybrid to me

    No clue on the others
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    Agree with Pyro on that last pic. It looks very similar to our large ventricosa x truncata, which we got from a good friend. This plant may be from tc.
    The sumatran species is a dead ringer for a plant we got from Bruce Bednar many years ago. Bruce simply called in sumatran species, because it had been collected near Sibolga. We think its a natural hybrid, possibly with gracilis. The pitchers are too big to be pure gracilis, so it may be part reinwardtiana??

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    "Nepenthes sp" from the Philippines:

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04696.jpg
    Could be N. mindanaoensis


    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04692.jpg
    N. petiolata new species

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04676.jpg
    Not sure

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04695.jpg
    Perhaps N. petiolata

    "Nepenthes sp" from Borneo:

    http://www.hbs.ne.jp/home/s-yamada/Dsc04675.jpg

    "Nepenthes sp" from Sumatra:

    http://yamadanouenn.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sc01426.jpg
    Looks like an alata

    Simply labelled "Nepenthes sp":

    http://yamadanouenn.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sam00703.jpg
    Could be N. ventricosa x truncata or vice verse
    But also resembles the natural hybrid of N. truncata x petiolata (mindanaoensis) too!
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    "Nepenthes sp" from Sumatra:

    http://yamadanouenn.hp.infoseek.co.jp/sc01426.jpg

    is not an alata...N. alata doesn't grow in Sumatra. Check out a pic of our plant.

    To make a very long story shorter, this plant was given to us a N.eustachya... but it is clearly not. The vine has a gracilis growth habit, but the traps aren't right for gracilis. We think it's gracilis x reinwardtiana or something similar.
    A lot of the unknown plants in those pics could be natural or man made hyrbids, some of the smaller plants are still too immature to make an id.

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    N. mindanaoensis is not a natural hybrid between N. truncata and N. petiolata.

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    But also resembles the natural hybrid of N. truncata x petiolata (mindanaoensis) too!

    This isn't meant to be implied as a result of the two crossing. Its merely to state that at one time petiolata was a synonym of mindanaoensis, so whichever the correct plant was used, its in parenthesis as a synonymous name and doesn't imply that petiolata is the same specis as mindanaoensis. This is why the parenthesed name comes right after another species epithet.

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