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    Ron, do you grow these using modified slack potting method as Pyro was describing or just top water the pots regularly?

    I apologize if this was asked before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gill_za View Post
    Ron, do you grow these using modified slack potting method as Pyro was describing or just top water the pots regularly?
    'Normal' Orchidioides - top water when the live LFS on top has some dry sections (usually daily) - when they are in growth mode. U. humboldtii & nelumbifolia are kept somewhat wetter - but have yet to truly find what's optimal for them & reniformis. U. nephrophylla can be grown like other small weedy utrics. When flowering slows down or stops, a repotting will act like a catalyst for several more months of flowers (at least for my primary vigorous clone).

    I also don't know whether I have Orchidioides 'dry season' identification down yet (along w/ concomitant watering). Thankfully several species have been forgiving with my 'errors'.
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    it's beginning to sound like the Orchidioides complex might be para or polyphyletic....beautiful plants Ron!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amphirion View Post
    it's beginning to sound like the Orchidioides complex might be para or polyphyletic....
    It's much easier to understand the 'original' Orchidioides species when Iperua are considered separately imho. The Iperua species are an eclectic group but the fact that most will produce fertile seed when crossed does suggest that they are closely related...

    I'm curious about several things (off the top of my head):

    - why was U. geminiloba included in Iperua instead of Orchidioides (I think it's the only one in Iperua w/ tubers)?
    - what kept U. tricolor & U. longifolia out of section Orchidioides (or at least out of Iperua)?
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    looking at the 'original' Orchidioides species vs Iperua it seems that the majority of the Orchidoides seem to be closer to epiphytes or lithophytes vs Iperua terrestrial/semi aquatic..... I do not completely buy the fertile offspring concept. Look at orchids as a whole. Inter generic hybrids that are fertile. Maybe doesn't work so well for plants as it does for animals

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    I was wondering if something similar was tried by fellow growers here with success:

    http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index...howtopic=42500

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    @gill: works for some, not for all. for those is the former Ipurea complex, im sure that will work fine...maybe even for a few of the true orchidioides complex, but there are those that look as if made to grow epiphytically such as jamesoniana and campbelliana which may not do as well.
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