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    Quote Originally Posted by amphirion View Post
    for orchidoides, it should be no different, but i think there are specific conditions that need to be met in order to successfully take.
    I have seen this happen to U. tricolor (not epiphytic) and to U. nephrophylla as well Just kept the soil moist and plantlets started sprouting on the leafs in few cases.

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    Some news to share with you guys concerning a couple orchidioides and pollination:

    campbelliana DOES self pollinate!

    that being said...it seems that cross pollination between two flowers seems to set more seed than pollinating a flower by itself. this could possibly be because the sex organs mature at different times?

    but, on a sad note, quelchii does not self.
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    U. alpinia x U. nelumbifolia



    looks like ovary swelling

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    Wow - hadn't noticed activity in this thread and hadn't checked - doh!

    Quote Originally Posted by amphirion View Post
    for orchidoides, it should be no different, but i think there are specific conditions that need to be met in order to successfully take.
    Agree. Sometimes Orchidioides leaves sprout easily and sometimes not at all. I'm not completely clear on what differentiates the two ...

    Quote Originally Posted by amphirion View Post
    Some news to share with you guys concerning a couple orchidioides and pollination:

    campbelliana DOES self pollinate!
    Excellent news! Do you actually have seed & has it sprouted? I've had some asplundii x asplundii pollinations produce tons of seed - and yet none sprouted!

    Quote Originally Posted by amphirion View Post
    but, on a sad note, quelchii does not self.
    I wouldn't draw an overall conclusion yet. I'm seeing odd stuff happen with these plants (like the asplundii pollination mentioned above). Also, in Bob's photofinder, there are pics of a U. nelumbifolia x U. nephrophylla cross. I've tried this cross several times & never got anything. Herr Fleischmann has suggested that the smaller pollen tubes in U. nephrophylla may simply be unable to do the job --- but then I see these pics! (The reverse cross has worked twice for me - but with minimal seed set both times -- minimal but viable). I've also had a few other crosses that didn't work that made me wonder what's going on.
    Quote Originally Posted by kulamauiman View Post
    looks like ovary swelling
    Sure does - I hope it's real (Pyro has had ovary swelling with zero seeds inside).

    Definitely some interesting stuff going on within this family of plants!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post

    Excellent news! Do you actually have seed & has it sprouted? I've had some asplundii x asplundii pollinations produce tons of seed - and yet none sprouted!
    my info came with a brief discussion with Tobias Kulig, who has pollinated and germinated campbelliana (same clone, wei tepui) multiple times. im assuming he has access to much more quelchii material than what is available in the US as well. perhaps selfing location clones will not work with quelchii, but different locations might be successful.

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    Sure does - I hope it's real (Pyro has had ovary swelling with zero seeds inside).
    hahaha. too true. our asplundii x quelchii project failed just like that.
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    I could not get the auspludi seeds to germinate either. Wondering what was missing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kulamauiman View Post
    I could not get the auspludi seeds to germinate either. Wondering what was missing....
    This is a real mystery for me. I sent out seed from several pods (& from both plants) to a few different utric growers. After this, thinking that the seed may somehow have been too old, I watched the pods carefully & at the first sign of maturity - ripped them open. After that, I even ripped the pods open deliberately early. Thousands & thousands of seeds from 2 different plants & not one germination.

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    the U. alpinia x nelumbifolia cross seemed didn't work. Ovary developed but looks like seeds aborted. Leaves me wondering ....

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