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  • #141
Excellent news! Do you actually have seed & has it sprouted? I've had some asplundii x asplundii pollinations produce tons of seed - and yet none sprouted! :headwall:

my info came with a brief discussion with Tobias Kulig, who has pollinated and germinated campbelliana (same clone, wei tepui) multiple times. im assuming he has access to much more quelchii material than what is available in the US as well. perhaps selfing location clones will not work with quelchii, but different locations might be successful.

Sure does - I hope it's real (Pyro has had ovary swelling with zero seeds inside).

hahaha. too true. our asplundii x quelchii project failed just like that. :lol: :cry:
 
  • #142
I could not get the auspludi seeds to germinate either. Wondering what was missing....
 
  • #143
I could not get the auspludi seeds to germinate either. Wondering what was missing....
This is a real mystery for me. I sent out seed from several pods (& from both plants) to a few different utric growers. After this, thinking that the seed may somehow have been too old, I watched the pods carefully & at the first sign of maturity - ripped them open. After that, I even ripped the pods open deliberately early. Thousands & thousands of seeds from 2 different plants & not one germination.

:scratch:
 
  • #144
the U. alpinia x nelumbifolia cross seemed didn't work. Ovary developed but looks like seeds aborted. Leaves me wondering ....
 
  • #145
I am new and all to the CP hobby but, a lot of plants seeds need a wintering or resting period. Whether it is dry or cold. Maybe there is a seasonal trigger?
I love lurking here, not the most active page at TF, but the most interesting.
Thanks Folks!
 
  • #146
Some of my Utrics

U. nelumbifolia from RL7836. Thank you Ron.
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U. humboldtii BCP (Cerro Neblina) from RL7836.
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two leaves on the left when I got it and two on right since.
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An aquatic leaf.
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a trap :)
U. nelumbifolia from boxofrain, Thanks Larry
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growing as an aquatic simulating a bromeliad urn.
Thanks for looking, Jack
 
  • #147
@ Jack
That is awesome. Im unlucky when it comes to nelumbifolia. It just does not like to grow in my conditions :(
 
  • #148
such a tease! it's been since late november, and STILL the flower stalk has yet to open.
a nice little peak though.

U. jamesoniana:
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  • #149
Oooo That will be nice :-D let us know when that opens Amph..

Oops! Looks like I was in serious need of a repot. . . This U. nelumbifolia I also received from RL7836 a while back has thick tubers all over the place.

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Close up of the traps. I wonder, if these segments of bladders are broken off, is it possible to grow them into new plugs?

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All potted up in its bigger, mesh pot. :-D

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  • #150
Oh that looks awesome. What are your growing conditions for this plant?
 
  • #151
Same as my Nepenthes:

100% LFS

80 degrees during the day

50-55 degrees at night

Under two T5's

No watering, daily misting, usually twice.

Inside covered terrarium.
 
  • #152
This U. nelumbifolia I also received from RL7836 a while back has thick tubers all over the place.

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Looks like the large form U. reniformis to me. Can you get a shot of the leaf from the top?
 
  • #153
Looks like the large form U. reniformis to me. Can you get a shot of the leaf from the top?
Interesting - I was thinking the same thing - both from the pic of the leaf to the thick root segments. Checking my records, supposedly I only sent Dex U. nelumbifolia - no rennies.... (hmmmm - although I did send a rennie segment to someone else that same day - hmmmm) :scratch:
 
  • #154
Looks like the large form U. reniformis to me. Can you get a shot of the leaf from the top?

Interesting - I was thinking the same thing - both from the pic of the leaf to the thick root segments. Checking my records, supposedly I only sent Dex U. nelumbifolia - no rennies.... (hmmmm - although I did send a rennie segment to someone else that same day - hmmmm) :scratch:

Here's the best pic I could dig up:

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  • #155
looks like reniformis to me. Although I have seen nelumbifolia make reniform leaves when immature or not happy...
 
  • #156
Oh my gosh, just browsed photofinder and you guys are indeed correct, it must be U. reniformis.

That changes everything!
 
  • #157
Oh my gosh, just browsed photofinder and you guys are indeed correct, it must be U. reniformis.
looks like reniformis to me. Although I have seen nelumbifolia make reniform leaves when immature or not happy...
Dex,
Have all the leaves been this shape? I'll often have a few younger leaves not fully form...
 
  • #158
Yeah all of its leaves have produced this shape, although it has only made a couple mature ones...

I haven't seen anything that was characteristically U. nelumbifoliaish though.

I will continue growing it with love and see if that changes though. :-D
 
  • #159
Things have been quiet in these parts so ..... time for a post ...
- a month or 2 ago, I allowed aerial stolons from both a U. nelumbifolia & a U. humboldtii clone to reach the lower reaches of my 75 gal tank where there is a layer of live LFS (I felt reasonably safe since all of the other utric pots are sitting on pots to raise them closer to the lights). Within a few weeks, both had launched the largest leaves that I've seen from any of my plants to date. ..((snip)).. I'm not sure what the two plants find down there that is so much better than in any pot - but I'd love to find out ... :scratch:
Last May, I posted the clip above. I'm still really curious what makes plants that are freed - go crazy growing?? Here are two pics showing the size difference between what is growing 'free' (left) vs what is in a 4" netpot (right). The leaves on the left average 14-16" high & the ones on the right 6-8". (My apologies - I couldn't size-match the pics to accurately reflect the size difference - just compare each to the size of my fingers/hand).
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I had to clip the nelumbifolia way back because it's 4" peltate umbrellas shaded everything around. So far, I've let the humbo keep growing. I've also allowed another clone to 'escape' in a different tank. It's just now starting to discover it's freedom - I'm curious to see how it does....
 
  • #160
maybe where it is going free wheeling it can seek the ideal environment for it self and put down stolons and traps in the right place. vs the net pot it is sort of constrained and forced to be a certain level of the pot in and such?.

Can you get some TDS readings of the liquid/water in the bottom of the tank. Maybe build up of nutrients there that is not available to the ones in the net pot? I am seeing something similar with one of the reniformis it has put out stolons in the bottom of the tray and is looking nice and robust. Same thing the humbo did earlier (I snipped it to get a redundant back up).

None of my my hombos have leaves like that in terms of size.
 
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