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    Ok let me say this right now. I am VERY new to utrics and I don't have any and I've never had any. But I know that some of them grow in just plant water. So my question is.....well my questions are... can you just throw some seeds in a 10 gallon aquarium half full of distilled water with a plant light over it and they will grow? Also, if you have utrics that you grow in soil then how do they eat? If you buy sphagnum peat moss from stores there obviously aren't any bugs or anything in it right? I'm sure these are pretty newB questions but I can't seem to find the right answers that I need. I really would like to start growing these plants. How can I setup my own little "terraquarium" to grow this neat little plants. I think they have really nice flowers and that's pretty much the reason that I want to get some. Plus I love carnivorous plants. Also, where do I get water fleas to feed them? I never heard of them until I heard about utrics. Thanks in advance for any feedback just in case I forget. lol

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    Only aquatic Utrics can grow in 100% water. Only around 15% of Utrics are true aquatics(e.gU.gibba, U.macrorhiza) The rest have to be grown in soil, though you can occassionally flood terrestrial Utrics. It doesnt really matter what terrestrial Utrics eat. There are always some tiny bugs in the soil almost invisible to the naked eye, thats what they eat. I reccomend you start with terrestrial utrics. U.sandersonii is a good begginer and windowsill plant.
    If you want to try an aquatic, try U.gibba.
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    Oh yeah, water fleas can be found in local ponds. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
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    Thanks so does that mean that if I got some U. Gibba seeds and put them in a tank of water under a grow light they'd grow? Or would I have to put some kind of soil on the bottom of the tank for the seeds to rest on? Once again thank you for answering such a newB question.
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    It's easier to start with plants, not seeds. Many aquatics (like some terrestrials) are so vigorous that you can just snip a chunk off and plonk it into new water and it will romp away. If you beg enough on here someone might offer to send you some...

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    I would if begging wasn't against the rules and plus....I don't have an aquarium yet....I do have a big fishbowl but I was planning on using that as a terrarium over the winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ChronoKiento @ Aug. 09 2004,8:56)]I would if begging wasn't against the rules
    I think Rob meant "begging" in joking terms. As far as it being against the rules, technically, yes, it is, but if you were to make a post in the trade forum that says something like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Hey all,

    I am looking to start growing some aquatic Utrics. I don't have much to trade right now but I could pay shipping or try to work something out. Please PM me.

    Thanks
    Then odds are some nice person will help you out.

    Now to answer your questions, basically Rob is correct in saying it would be easier to go about getting already growing material. Utric seed are notoriously shorty lived and tend to be next to impossible for even experienced growers.

    Starman was correct that microfauana will be lurking inthe peat straight out of the package but you can supliment by adding a cup of pond water and all the critters from there will establish themselves rather easy. For terrestrials I find a once a year treatment is sufficient unless you let the tray totally dry out. For aquatics once the microfauna is established then it sould be self maintaining but again a yearly addition doesn't hurt.

    To set up a terrarium you have pleanty of options.

    The first, for an aquatic you can place a 2" layer of peat on the bottom of a tank and then place a 1/2" inch layer of sand over that. Gently add water (you want to keep the peat getting kicked up and clouding the water.) now just drop the plant in and let it do its thing. If you can wait a few weeks before adding the plant that is best but it is not an absolute. For plants like U. gibba that grow as sub-affixed the set up is kind of the same except you only let the water get about 2" deep and let the level drop to the sand before adding more. A great direction on how to set these types of set ups can be found at this site here (which I also recommend as reading for any newbie.)

    For terrestrials you can just dump a peat:sand mix in the bottom of a terrarium plant up divisions and let them take over. This techniqu isn't the greates because some Utircs are very "aggressive" and will swamp put the others. I like to use 2" pots and pack the bottom of the tank with them, each pot gets its own Utric. to water simply add water to the level of the pot and then let the level drop some before adding more.

    For the Orchidioides and Iperua Utrics (commonly but incorrectly called the epiphytics) it will be easier on me to just have you check this link here:

    third post on the second page (it is also by me)

    Hope this helps



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    U. gibba grows easily from seed from my experience. I bought a bowl, the kind you put goldfish in, put some LFS and peat in the bottom and added RO water. Let it soak, skimmed the floaters then just added the seed. It worked!

    After they get long, looks like about a year or so. I will grow them as semi aquatics (half buried/half floating). I have some gibba I grow this way and they flower regularly when the water level drops. Part of the plant sticks to the side of the bowl as the water receeds. I think its this stranded plant material that causes the plant to flower.

    Anyhow, experiment, have fun and good luck. Some people think Utics are boring little plants but I think they are fun.

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