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    Here are pictures of my Walmart-purchased sick plants!!! I am very concerned and sad!!!

    BEFORE (2-18-2006)


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    AFTER (now)




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    I am disconcerted over this. Look how terrible they look!

    here are my care methods:

    1. I used to put my plants in brilliant, direct, strong Southern Californian sunlight for 2 weeks before placing them now in filtered/indirect sunlight.

    2. I used to overwater my plants for 2 weeks because seeing how my first VFT Czech Giant was thriving from my care, I applied the watering techniques to the dry, store-bought VFTs as well: keeping them in a tray with a centimeter or so of water AND misting them gently with distilled/reverse-osmosis water a few times a day. But now, I don't overhead waterfeed them, just let them soak up the water in the tray.

    3. At night it would get bizarrely cold, so I took them in every night and put them next to the window throughout the night, and placed them outside in the morning again.

    And now my questions:

    1. What are some physical signs a VFT has been over-watered?

    2. What are some physical signs a VFT has been scorched by the sun?

    3. What are some signs of a fungus/bacteria/insect attack?

    4. How does a VFT look when it has been watered too long of a time with non-distilled, hard water?

    5. Judging from these photos, what do you think happened to my plants?

    6. What would be your diagnosis on recommendations on what I should do about this? (Also, any feedback on my care actions, advice/criticisms would be GREATLY appreciated)

    Oh, and here is my Czech Giant venus fly trap that I have been growing under these SAME conditions, and it is FINE:

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    After:



    Oh my goodness, thank you so much!!! (((Very very distressed and saddened))) I had read dozens of care/instructions sites for hours and hours, and tried to avoid "over-caring" my plants too... I hope it's not a fungus attack..

    -Caro

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    Ur plants all look fine to me. The browning of some traps is natural and they seem to be doing fine. Just put them back outside in the full sun and they will do extremly well. Also, if the temps are above 20F without artic winds ur plants will withstand the cold and it will make the plants stronger.

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    Carnivore freak is right, they look great to me, I wouldnt worry unless the bases start browning, I might remove that mossy stuff on top though
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    Maybe they don't like the names 'batty', 'dooty'? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]. j/k Caro--plants look ok. Keep in mind that older traps blacken and die--just remove them. And you may want to let the water evaporate from the tray before you add more. My experience is that VFTs can be overwatered, but...that's not everyone's experience. Make sure that your plants get enough light--they seem to be.



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    They look fine to me. What you are seeing is the weaker old leaves dying off. As far as I can tell from the pictures, every plant has healthy new growth emerging from the center. This is a very good sign. The new growth will be better able to handle the conditions your plants are in. It doesnt really get cold enough where you are to present any problems with leaving your plants outdoors 24/7.

    My advice is to go ahead and leave your plants outdoors full time. Spring is on the way and now is the time for your plants to get used to the more intense direct sun and heat they will be getting when summer gets into full swing.

    The only pests I have ever had any problems with are slugs/snails and aphids. I use plain old snail killing pellets for the slugs/snails and Orthene for the aphids. Many people will tell you that the best way to kill aphids is to drown them by submerging the entire plant in water for several days. That works, but IMO its more hassle than its worth. Orthene is extremely effective and 1 application in early spring keeps my plants pest free all season. (note: Orthene stinks... that stuff could scare the flies off a garbage pit.. blehhhhh) Physical signs of aphid attack, aside from actually seeing the little buggers on your plants, are traps that come up deformed and looking like a piece of chewed bubble gum. Its pretty obvious when you see it.

    Overwatering is not really an issue with VFTs. I generally keep mine in a tray filled about 1/2 way up the side of the pot. I let the tray run dry (which takes about 1 day in the heat of summer here) and refill. Misting is not necessary at all. I have even accidently triggered traps by misting.

    I would repot all your wal-mart VFTs into a fresh mix of peat and coarse sand. Ignore all the perlite fans that boast how great that garbage is. Its ugly, it floats and it attracts algae like a magnet. Go to the local pool supply store and get a bag of pool filter sand. You can get like 50 pounds for 5 or 6 bucks.

    Overall I'd say you are doing exactly the right things to keep your plants alive long term. Mainly, you are doing your homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (JBL @ Feb. 26 2006,7:54)]Maybe they don't like the names 'batty', 'dooty'? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]. j/k Caro--plants look ok. Keep in mind that older traps blacken and die--just remove them. And you may want to let the water evaporate from the tray before you add more. My experience is that VFTs can be overwatered, but...that's not everyone's experience. Make sure that your plants get enough light--they seem to be.
    That is hilarious!!

    I know, the names of my plants are downright PREPOSTEROUS!! I named those intentionally because the names sounded so off-key, because I'd like to know that some people look at my plants and laugh their head off, "What?! Dooty? Meddy?! ONION!??! GINGER!??! BUBO??!? CELERY?!?!"

    Further names to be delegated:

    1. Booby
    2. Zunny
    3. Xanadu
    4. Bummy
    5. Voodoo

    Thanks for everyone saying they look fine, but maybe the pictures didn't show parts of the leaves looking decayed/burnt to a crisp/ very leathery.

    The plants are no longer GREEN, too, but fading into yellower, sallow hues. Originally when I picked them up from walmart, the greens were PURE green, and I think I've scorched them to yellow/black edges.


    click and you'll see the LEATHERY TEXTURE!


    There are many other burnt/black edges of leaves, blades, not only traps.

    Does anyone know how over-watering/ excessive sun looks like? I wish I had acclimated them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (vft guy in SJ @ Feb. 26 2006,8:13)]They look fine to me. What you are seeing is the weaker old leaves dying off. As far as I can tell from the pictures, every plant has healthy new growth emerging from the center. This is a very good sign. The new growth will be better able to handle the conditions your plants are in. It doesnt really get cold enough where you are to present any problems with leaving your plants outdoors 24/7.

    My advice is to go ahead and leave your plants outdoors full time. Spring is on the way and now is the time for your plants to get used to the more intense direct sun and heat they will be getting when summer gets into full swing.

    The only pests I have ever had any problems with are slugs/snails and aphids. I use plain old snail killing pellets for the slugs/snails and Orthene for the aphids. Many people will tell you that the best way to kill aphids is to drown them by submerging the entire plant in water for several days. That works, but IMO its more hassle than its worth. Orthene is extremely effective and 1 application in early spring keeps my plants pest free all season. (note: Orthene stinks... that stuff could scare the flies off a garbage pit.. blehhhhh) Physical signs of aphid attack, aside from actually seeing the little buggers on your plants, are traps that come up deformed and looking like a piece of chewed bubble gum. Its pretty obvious when you see it.

    Overwatering is not really an issue with VFTs. I generally keep mine in a tray filled about 1/2 way up the side of the pot. I let the tray run dry (which takes about 1 day in the heat of summer here) and refill. Misting is not necessary at all. I have even accidently triggered traps by misting.

    I would repot all your wal-mart VFTs into a fresh mix of peat and coarse sand. Ignore all the perlite fans that boast how great that garbage is. Its ugly, it floats and it attracts algae like a magnet. Go to the local pool supply store and get a bag of pool filter sand. You can get like 50 pounds for 5 or 6 bucks.

    Overall I'd say you are doing exactly the right things to keep your plants alive long term. Mainly, you are doing your homework.

    Cheers
    Steve
    That's good to hear the current/older leaves were dying off because they were weaker. When I had purchased them, I did see the tiny growth/new traps----> and these are dying off too. I guess I have to wait until MORE sprout because they would indubitably be stronger.

    I will keep them outside 24/7 now, thank you for giving me that suggestion- I thought I was protecting my plants from the cold, but I don't want them to be "wussies" either LOL.

    If I observe aphids, I'll look for Orthene @ Walmart , too.

    "Overwatering is not really an issue with VFTs. I generally keep mine in a tray filled about 1/2 way up the side of the pot. I let the tray run dry (which takes about 1 day in the heat of summer here) and refill. Misting is not necessary at all. I have even accidently triggered traps by misting."

    I'll let my VFTS run their absorption process from down below, thanks!

    "I would repot all your wal-mart VFTs into a fresh mix of peat and coarse sand. Ignore all the perlite fans that boast how great that garbage is. Its ugly, it floats and it attracts algae like a magnet. Go to the local pool supply store and get a bag of pool filter sand. You can get like 50 pounds for 5 or 6 bucks. "

    I have no faith in my repotting skills---- once I performed a leaf cutting on a walmart plant and the attempts were all failures--- I try as gently as possible when removing the plant from its current medium, but I believe too many roots are lost in the process when I do it, and the plant either enters shock or root trauma. I really would like to apply this tip, but maybe I'll wait a week or so.

    I had no idea perlite was that over-hyped! I didn't know algae was that harmful, either. So goes with Scott's Perlite, then.

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    Hi Caro, I agree with Steve. The older leaves are dying off. They weren't necessarily weak. They just hadn't been adjusted to the sunlight and got sunburned. The new leaves will be adapted to the sunlight and will grow just fine.
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