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    Does a selfed akai ryu grow true from seeds ?

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    It will grow regular VFT's
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    Funny....all of the selfings I've made of Red Dragon AND Green Dragon have ALL come out pure red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (philcula @ June 12 2006,8:32)]Funny....all of the selfings I've made of Red Dragon AND Green Dragon have ALL come out pure red.
    Ditto
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    I hope that's true. I've got a ton of seeds from all sorts of hybrids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (philcula @ June 12 2006,8:32)]Funny....all of the selfings I've made of Red Dragon AND Green Dragon have ALL come out pure red.
    Same here.
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    They might be red, but they aren't 'Red Dragon.' A cultivar is a clone of a particular plant, not it's offspring. Just sharing some of the traits of the parent isn't enough to fit the definition. In order to call a plant 'Red Dragon,' it should be genetically identical to the original 'Red Dragon.'
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    I got the following from the ICPS Registered Cultivar Names:
    "Growth habit and flower morphology are typical for this species. The leaf petiole, blade and trap exhibit dark maroon to burgundy coloration. Any green coloration has only been noted around the center of the plant in mid-winter. The entire trap, interior and exterior, exhibits dark burgundy coloration throughout the year. Grown under laboratory conditions, where nutrient levels can be comparatively high, the plants still exhibit partial burgundy coloration in the traps and leaf blade."

    Standard: Carniv.Pl.Newslett.25:50 (1996)
    Propagation: vegetative reproduction (originally in vitro culture)
    Etymology: after red colouration of plants (Japanese: "Red Dragon")


    Note that it states that Propagation is by "vegetative reproduction" (leaf cuttings/pullings w/e). So seeds don't work. On the other hand, the rules state that if it looks like it, then it can be called that. That means that it has to match the published description exactly. So it is possible to have a 'Red Dragon' with a different genetic makeup than the original 'Red Dragon'. Without doing a bunch of trials growing the plants under many different conditions, it would be very difficult to claim F2 seeds are the same as the parent. I'd stick to the leaf cuttings myself as then I don't have to worry about a seedling I traded to someone as a 'Red Dragon' changing characteristics under someone elses growing conditions and looking entirely different than would be expected from a true 'Red Dragon' grown under the same conditions.

    As seedjar said, you now have a bunch of red VFTs. Lable them as 'Akai Ryu' F2 plants but not as true 'Akai Ryu"
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