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    i'll be keeping my VFT indoors and i was wondering if it is necessary to prepare my plant for the dormancy months?

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    Quote[/b] ]DORMANCY : Dormancy is best done by taking the plant out of the pot during mid-autumn , spray it with fungicide , wrap the roots with peat moss or lfs ( long fibered sphagnum ), put it in a plastic bag , then place it in the refridgerator , and take it out in early spring . If you are fortunate enough to live in an area similar to the climate found in a venus flytrap's natural habitat then you should keep your plants outside year round . Remember to take off dead plant matter to avoid fungus .
    Also i've read from http://www.botany.org/bsa/misc/carn.html that small slugs are also suitable for the plant and i wanted to see if anyone has ever fed their VFT slugs?

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    hi, welcome!

    yup, dormancy is necessary. where do you live? ideally, if you can keep it outdoors, you should...that way it will get enough light and it will naturally prepare itself for dormancy as the daylight hours and temperatures decrease. otherwise, you'll have to figure out some other way to simulate those conditions.

    as far as slugs...one of my little monsters caught one, and seemed to be enjoying it just fine. that is, until some punk bird came, pecked the trap open and stole it.
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    i want to try to see if a VFT can get by dormancy permenantly if grown from seed and not given dormancy. maby experience triggers dormancy. heck if this works i could have an everygrow VFT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (glider14 @ Sep. 04 2006,5:29)]i want to try to see if a VFT can get by dormancy permenantly if grown from seed and not given dormancy. maby experience triggers dormancy. heck if this works i could have an everygrow VFT!
    Alex
    I personally don't think that would work (a VFT never going dormant). The reason is that VFTs seem to use up energy at a slightly faster rate than they acummulate it during an active growing season. They grow vigorously, trap lots of bugs and use up energy digesting those bugs. Just like humans, they need some "down time" to recharge.

    At the end of the season, and to some extent during dormancy as the living green leaves continue to photosynthesize, the plant begins to deposit the nutrition at the base of the leaves, in the underground "bulb" of the VFT, building a reserve for the next season's vigorous growth.

    Without this reserve, I believe a Venus Flytrap would expend all its energy and effort and would "live fast and die young," so to speak, within a few seasons/years. Otherwise, with a proper rest and recharge period every year, they can live for many many years. (which causes me to wonder what some of the recorded lifespans of individual VFTs are)

    Just my opinion and two bits--


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    oh well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (glider14 @ Sep. 04 2006,6:05)]oh well...
    --Hey, don't take my word for it! My point of view is anything but scientific, and just based on my own mostly subjective observations.


    To me, Venus Flytraps grow extravagantly, investing all they have in biger and better and more numerous solar collectors and resource processing and storage facilities (leaves).

    All of this heavy investment will hopefully pay off at some point instead of bankrupting the plant, and usually it does so, at the end of the season when the Venus Flytrap is in high gear producing and extracting nutrients, finally, at a much greater rate than it is expending them as it begins to draw back from expansion and concentrate on savings.

    After all, there is less sun because the days are shorter and the angle of the sun is more glancing than direct. But all of its many leaves are producing through photosynthesis and processing through trapping and digestion lots of nutrition all at once, which is then stored safely at the base of the leaves underground where they don't die even though the top, visible parts of the leaves die.

    Anyway, its like investing everything you've got for the hope of greater and greater return, until that time when circumstances allow you to back off while the machinery of resource gathering fills your bank account--or something like that.

    Yeah, I know, weird analogy-- But like I said, it's not science, it's just the way it feels man!


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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]yup, dormancy is necessary. where do you live? ideally, if you can keep it outdoors, you should...that way it will get enough light and it will naturally prepare itself for dormancy as the daylight hours and temperatures decrease. otherwise, you'll have to figure out some other way to simulate those conditions.
    am from toronto so its definitely too cold outside during the winter months and now am just considering what would be better
    method 1) http://www.terraforums.com/ib312....97;st=0
    (stick in the fridge)

    OR

    method 2) If you live in a place with winters that are too harsh and cold, consider wintering your plant next to a sunny window. The plant will get sunlight, but being close to the cold window it might be chilly enough for dormancy. Folks who live in the far north are used to chilly rooms, anyway, so the plant might fit right in. As in Method 1, the plant will need light because it is photosynthesizing as normal.

    -I definitely have a chilly room in the house so method 2 is also an option.

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    Quote[/b] ]as far as slugs...one of my little monsters caught one, and seemed to be enjoying it just fine. that is, until some punk bird
    came, pecked the trap open and stole it.
    haha...thats one hungry bird :P

    what method do you guys/gals thank is better?
    thanks everyones for your help

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    Excuse me, I haven't quite worked out that quote thingy. please endure endure my cut and paste
    >>>>xscd says: >>>>>which causes me to wonder what some of the recorded lifespans of individual VFTs are)<<<<<
    I have seen off spring of the 3 plants that Bob Z. bought back in 1955. They are still alive, thriving and producing new offspring every year.
    I don't think the original plant parts are still there because of the way VFTs grow.That is old leaves and 'bulb' parts dying off being replaced by new ones.
    Have you noticed that,if you have a VFT long enough , it kinda walks to the edge of the pot.
    IMHO I think that he should name his plants_1955 . They were probably wild collected so that he could buy them. Since there was not much tissue culture of carnivorous plants going on at that time.
    Every seed that you plant ,doesn't sprout.
    Every seed that sprouts, doesn't make it to maturity.
    Every cutting that you stick doesn't grow roots.
    Every cutting that roots doesn't grow to a small plant.
    Every small plant doesn't reach maturity.


    Who needs speelcheck?

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