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    Hi guys,

    Finally I went from the OTT-Lite 13watt lamp to this::

    2 x GE Britestik Fluorescent lights

    stats each:

    3500 K
    56 CI
    750 Luminex
    34 watt

    I am using 2 of them

    Firstly my positioning...

    Since I have no dome and no means to support that big tube over such a small tank, there is a overhang of 15 cm.

    This is what i did. To avoid heating issues and tube failure...I used a piece of paper and made a wedge which I put over the sill of the tank on either sides.

    I rested the tube with the fixture facing outwards.

    As u notice the light going to plants is very low. So as a dome...I used a piece of regular box cardboard which coincidentally has a white outside and made a dome with the white over.







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    The light has improved. As for the overhang...I am trying 2 methods to grow live sphagnum that I just recieved. When I just put the red and green dragons...the displaced media gave me an idea to try 2 methods if one doesn't work.

    I put some blond live sphagnum as a ground cover...kinda pressed it in a little. then I put some green sphagnum over it. I sprayed it and put quite some rain water in it.

    In the terrarium...a couple of VFTs are closely spaced...but hopefully it shouldb't be too bad.

    the surface was cleaned or most of the old dry "wetted" dead sphagnum was removed except for some parts where there was signs of green..ness and a piece of carpet moss.

    Then I spread over the blond sphagnum...all of it on the ground cover. Then I once again placed the remaining scarce amount of green sphagnum on it.

    Remember the drain hole I had on side through the media to see water level...well....I acutally put some blond sphagnum in there and put a little green on top...then I poured water in there...kinda to try a mini marshland and see if the moss survives.

    I tried these 2 scenarios for the moss.

    Now the lighting is the part. I have gone from my earlier one 13 watt lamp to 2 tube lights totalling a 68 watts and around 1500 lux.

    I noticed that the heat production is kinda high now. So....I have this regular household revolving fan. I face it towards the terrarium and put on low.

    I can notice the air inside moving as some of the vft leaves do move as well. Hopefully...the humidity should stay high, temp inside DID definately increase...and there is now aircirculation as well.

    Hopefully the VFT's should now atleast grow well without any signs of low light...I don't care red traps...I just want them to be growing healthyly.

    cheers,

    varun

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    Should be better. I've never grown them inside so I can only give a hypothesis.

    Should be time for them to start going dormant.

    Varun is an awesome name. Is that Arabic? It's a really cool name.

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    I'm not an expert and can't begin to comment on most of what you've written, but the color temperature (3500K) seems a little low. I think plants do most of their photosynthesis in the 5000+ range; so it may be worth moving up the spectrum next time you're in the market for lights. With 68 watts, though, I'm guessing they'll get enough useful light to do well enough for now.

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    @ justlikeapril,

    Lol! varun is a hindu indian name. The god of rain is varuna.

    The plants are off tissue culture and keehns (from whom I bought them) told me it might be ok to let all of my 5 plants (only 2 exceptions) grow all yr till next winter. The plants need time to sync up. if I force dormancy, they may die

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    About the color temp.....darn.....I cannot find any other lights with like smaller bulbs or higher stats. darn......

    I notice that my main B-52 VFT is like stalled...i.e., the small leaflet isn't growing compared to yest. is it becos, they are adjusting to the new light

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    Stay chooned in for more! Clint's Avatar
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    Are you indian? hindu? that's so cool. I think the indian culture is awesome and their clothes and music are beautiful! I can't understand the lyrics but I like the music!

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    lol! well...I am now kinda a indo-canadian. I am hindu and I did live in india for my first 15 yrs. yet...interestingly, I am not too much into indian films and music. If anything I like the old mythological telugu indian movies that came out in 1950's or 60's.

    I am more of a english music listener and more of a western movie watcher.

    Its interesting to know that another culture from a different part of the world finds the indian culture fascinating. I normally only hear ppl saying that they only like indian food .

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    So guys....do u think this is ok for now? Is the temp thing too big of a deal? Becos if it is then I'll try to look for other replacement tubes of this size with higher rating.

    But I really don't and can't afford to keep spending money. I would like to stay with these lights atleast till next summer break. Is this ok for the VFT's? There are 7 in there now and a small one whose lives depend on this.

    -growlist-

    Dionea Muscipula

    B-52 Giant
    Typical "red rosetted"
    Dentate
    Typical
    Green Dragon
    Red Dragon
    --might be a second red dragon as accidentally a leaf with the white part came off and I put it on the peat..and covered it with a small layer of peat --

    Drosera

    capensis : green form

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    cheers,

    vraev

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    Hey vraev, it sounds like you more or less have the right idea. In the future, though, forget the Ott-Lights - they're not worth the extra expense, despite their pretty packaging. Ordinary cool or warm white fluorescents work almost as well, if not better.
    You probably don't have enough plants to occupy the space beneath them, but it will actually be much cheaper for you to buy some of those four-foot, two-bulb fluorescent shoplights the next time you're in the market for lights. The four- and eight-foot varieties are a sort of industry standard, so they're far cheaper than smaller fixtures and bulbs, which are pretty much just used as accent and utility lighting in homes. I got my shoplight fixtures for under $10 US each, and a case of twenty tubes is like $20-$25.
    Don't worry about low humidity in your tank! VFTs do fine in low humidity! So long as you don't let your plants grow for several months in a sopping wet tank and then move them into a desert climate, they should be just fine. If anything, high humidity will cause problems in the long term, causing your plant to make thin, weak leaves and inviting mold and other pests.
    Best luck,
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (vraev @ Sep. 20 2006,1:14)]
    So guys....do u think this is ok for now? Is the temp thing too big of a deal? Becos if it is then I'll try to look for other replacement tubes of this size with higher rating.
    Color temperature is a big deal, but like I said yours is not bad, just not quite optimal. Think of it this way: you're stuck in the desert and come across a large cup. Would you prefer that cup filled with: damp sand (standard incadescent light bulb), tap water ('cool white' 3500K lights), or sparkling filtered spring water ('daylight' 5500K lights)? Your lights are like the tap water. Not quite optimal, but perfectly healthy. I was just pointing out the termperature for when you need to replace these bulbs.

    Of course, my expertise would be more in physics than horticulture, so take my comments with a grain of salt...

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