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    it will only close if u poke it twice...poke a hair once and the cells swell with water, touch it twice, and the water is realeased and the trap closes. so only touch 1 hair once.

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    I was under the impressed electric impulses are more important than water in the cells to spring the trap. But shows what I know, you're the expert.

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    So, the old water theory, huh? I have heard that one for years. The way the VFT closes has been shown by one group to be instantaneous cell growth. When the trigger hairs are stimulated twice (you got that part right) the outer cells have been shown to grow instantly by 25%. The inside cells do not expand so this sudden growth forces the traps jaws to "grow together" in 1/25th of a second. In essence, it warps the trap shut. When it is finished digesting prey, the opposite happens. The outside cells do not grow, but the inside ones now expand, at a much slower rate. Again, it warps open. Touching the triggers once sends an electrical impulse causing the cell to set itself, waiting for the second impulse. The "set" causes the cell to expand 5 to 10%. Instant cell growth. That is how the VFT closes.

    Having heard these two ideas kicked around for years makes me realize one thing. AIN'T NOBODY SURE OF WHAT REALLY MAKES THE PLANT CLOSE!!!!!!!! However, I love the theories and say either one could be right, or wrong. I favor the instant cell growth idea. Makes sense to me.
    If you want super duper size VFT's, and all it takes is heat, then put your plants and tray on a heat mat, set it for 85 degrees, and see what shakes. Pretty old stuff I am hearing here. Nothing new. So, what makes a VFT red? And how do they get red? What are the triggers that cause it?
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    well, i only heard the water theory, and i noticed that when i touch a hair once everyday in one trap...that paticular trap becomes larger than all the rest, even when the trap started off at normal size. idk y it would happen with the eletrical theory, but it does make sence with the water theory...try it for yourself this summer...it worked for me

    BTW...a toothpick workes best with this

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    I've got this muscle stimulator, I'm going to hook up some electrodes to the lobes and see what happens. Meanwhile I'll be fondling the hairs ever 3 hours on the clock in my basement under an HID light. Just kidding.


    See the fun thing with plants, Bruce, is that they are living! I've grown plants by the books and followed what the "experts" said to do and they croaked! I've grown plants in conditions that the "experts" said should kill them yet the grow faster than anticipated and multiply! What works for you works for you but maybe not your neighbor. I'm convinced our friend Joseph is in league with a voodoo priestess with the way he grows his plants, which would surely die under my care, but his are THE , and I'll say it, THE best Pinguicula I've ever seen!

    A perfect example is how I can't grow Dionaea to save my life, yet I can grow cephalotus easily in conditions that should kill it. Once I tried growing Aldrovanda and had special PC lighting, RO water, a pressurized CO2 system, macro and micro nutrients calculated by yours truly to the smalled PPM, yet poof. Died within a couple of weeks in perfect conditions. I'm 17, too like you by the way. I've been at this since I was 9 and if I've learned one thing is that these plants are ALWAYS full of surprises

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    Well, we have two theories. Nothing concrete. So, you gonna answer the red question, or should I direct you to the stickie in the VFT forums so you will have more knowledge under your belt??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugweed View Post
    So, what makes a VFT red? And how do they get red? What are the triggers that cause it?



    Wait. You trying to tell me there are VFTs out there that are RED? No way. I don't believe it.
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