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    Let's positive thinking! seedjar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugweed View Post
    What did I tell you guys?? Instant cell growth--explained!! Thanks, Arthur!!!
    This is kind of misleading. It's not really cell growth - indeed, it is growth in a semantic sense, but biologically, it's expansion due to water intake, like inflating a balloon. The cells are not dividing or increasing in mass due to metabolic activity:
    Water enters the cells by osmosis. Since the cells have become unglued, they are able to expand as they take in water, and hence they grow.
    I think we should spend less time arguing over words and specific accounts as they always seem to turn out as, "everyone's right in their own way," situations. After-school special moments were never really that insightful anyways.
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    Seedman, lean over here so I can tweak your ear!!!!! Growth is growth, regardless of how you slice it. Granted, it is a matter of semantics, but even the article mentioned it as growing. So, to save us all the trouble, lets just go with that until we have a better way to explain it in layman's terms.
    And Seedy One, do not play with your trigger hair!!!!!!!
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    Bah! If you're going to argue with me about reasons not to argue, then it's pointless. I'm not the one who lambasted CP_dude's explanation of his technique for sizing up traps. I was just pointing out that the two of you were pointing to the same phenomenon when you were arguing whether it was water uptake or growth, as it turns out to be growth _due to_ water uptake. Can't we all just get along?
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    WHAT!!!!! A little terse are we not? You haven't been playin' with the trigger hair have you?? Could be why you are so grumpy! LOL!
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    Phbbt. You're not the only one who can be stubborn. ;P These types of things just always make me scratch my head.
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    Nuff said, my friend! I'll behave now.
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    I had a fabulous innuendo going and you two spoil all of my saucy fun.

    Look at this analogy. If you have a flat, dehydrated sponge and it absorbs water... sweet Jesus it just grew! No it did not go through mitosis but it still grew in size. See? I think calling it growth due water uptake is good and can make everyone happy. I guess we could call it expansion instead of growth.

    By the way, I laughed my butt off to that after school special comments rotflmao!

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    But then the traps reopen not by contracting the expanded side, but by growing on the opposite side - so it is growth - the cellular fibers are made flexible by depleting calcium from them - they stretch - calcium is reabsorbed and they lose their flexibility and remain the new length. The plant must add new material to these fibers or else they would lose strength - but that could partially explain why the traps wear out.
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