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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridetsu View Post
    california sucks


    not saying that the "our 'zone' " thing is your idea - just that the zone of the CP grower doesn't matter since its such a vague value.
    I wouldnt say zones are "vague"..
    they are actually quite precise!

    they are a good starting point, and they give you a good idea of what you can and cant grow depending on your zone...

    I guess with CPs they arent terribly useful, because we seldom talk about zones in relation to the plants..you almost never hear "VFTs are a zone 8 plant"..probably because we dont use zones in the same way zones are used for other garden plants..

    For example, if I know a certain palm tree is "zone 9"..
    that immediately tells me its going to be a houseplant for me!
    I cant plant it out in my front yard next to the Red maple..
    and here in the north, many garden plants we consider "annuals" are actually just not hardy for our zone!
    For example, tomato plants are technically NOT annuals!
    they dont die during the winter in their native habitat!
    they DO die in northern winters..which makes them an "annual" here in the sense they will only live one season in the north..but only because winter kills them up here. Zones play into all this.

    I guess no one cares much about zones in the CP hobby because it doesnt matter!
    we will grow VFTs and Sarracenia no matter what!
    regardless of where we live!
    and regardless of the native location of the plant..
    we dont grow VFTs as garden plants..so zones dont matter quite so much..
    If we want to grow VFTs for more than one year, we learn what they need and we give it to them..actual zone numbers dont really come into play because of the way we treat VFTs..we dont CARE what the zone is..we find out they they need through other means.
    but "finding out through other means" is technically the same thing as finding out its zone..

    and zones are also just temperature..which doesnt tell you the whole story..
    The Sahara desert and the Amazon jungle might both be zone 11!
    so yeah, you still need to know more than just the zone..
    zones are mostly designed just for gardening and anything you would plant out in the yard..
    vegtables, flowers, trees, shrubs..


    No one cares what zone a Nepenthes is from..we will give it the conditions it requires from its native "zone"...even if we dont technically know what that zone number is..
    but if we didnt already know what kind of growing conditions a Nepenthes needed, at all..looking up its Zone would give us a good starting point!
    simply knowing its Zone 4 or Zone 11 will tell us volumes..

    Scot

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    What comes to mind are the contrasting conditions of xscd, who lives in our desert Southwest - more extremes of temperature and much drier.... and yet he is quite successful.

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    my zone is said to be 3b heh... but i dont leave my plants outside... we have full snow for months on end here.

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    I added some information about Hardiness zones to my page,
    with maps and relevance to CPs..
    its at the bottom of this page:

    http://gold.mylargescale.com/Scottychaos/CP/page2.html

    thanks,
    Scot

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