These are grown indoors under bright CFLs, so it is entirely possible to grow healthy plants indoors. I even have some pitcher plants I'm growing indoors, but those may eventually get too tall to keep inside.
"Oh, now he's a philosophizer"
[QUOTE=scottychaos;889540]I never said it was an automatic death sentence..
im just providing the other side of the story..
IMO, there are several rather irresponsible posts in the thread, giving misleading and dangerous information for newbies... such as:
I appreciate your enthusiastic comments. That being said...
Yes, I have been growing them since roughly March and they have done nothing but improve. Do I realize there will be slight complications when it comes to dormancy? Yes... you and a whole score of others have told me this.
All myself and a few others have done in this thread is to state it can be done... and that is all. I realize they would probably do better outdoors, but that is not to say they can't thrive indoors. Rather than jumping to conclusions and lumping me in with those that feel a 2 week dormancy will cut it, why don't you instead encourage people and at least give some credit to enthusiastic growers. I have done my research and am fully aware of needing to change the photoperiod as well as gradual drops in temperature.
In your post you do nothing but use extreme examples of what those crazy, ignorant rookie CP growers think about trying their luck at growing VFTs indoors. There are some, such as myself, that do it, have fun doing it, and will do everything in their power to respect the dormancy requirement and not kill their plants.
I have no problem with advice and will listen. I do have a problem with your presentation. Not trying to be mean. . . .
talk about leafcutting
but anyways, you should be able to grow it indoor if you provide all the right condition
That poor trap was halfway eaten by some sort of pest. There were a couple of others that looked similar or even worse. One looked like wacky traps/bart simpson, but it was only because it had been eaten away.
Originally Posted by upper
I managed to kill it with a spinosad/BT mix after having several leaves ravaged, but I recently found a new one that has had it happen. I still have no idea what it is.
yeah this is an interesting thread topic... and it has gone a really long ways since I posted in the first page...
I'm no CP expert i've been growing for about 1 year... but I put about 10 vft's through dormancy last year without any outside growth at all.... so does that mean its okay for me to post on the subject? there not 15 years old... but I mean 15 years ago I was 5 so thats kind of an impossible feat for me... but anyways I digress...
I think the bottom line is that its definitely doable to grow them inside and provide them dormancy and have healthy plants...
it IS more difficult, it DOES require more attention
and it WILL take time to find a method that works for each individual...
but it definitely is NOT an impossible task.
everyone appreciates the info from the experienced growers on this forum and scotty of course your one of them, your sarrs and bogs are great and everyone knows that.
I understand your apparent commitment to care more about the plants than the growers... at least that what it appears... given your approach it would seem that anyone living in an area where you cant grow vft's outside would just be what? SOL?
I feel thats kind of a sad approach for the CP community in general... Isnt alot of what we're trying to accomplish is spreading knowledge and appreciation for these plants and what better than actually growing them.... would you feel theres a geographic restriction on that? I would hope not...
I would hope that if I moved to the antarctic to live with capensis that I could grow my Cp's there too....
your fortunate to live in an area where you can grow these plants outside, not everyone is...
I feel that you've made your views clear and i'm glad, ideally everyone would grow all of their plants outside. all nepenthes all pings all vft's all sarrs... it just doesn't work out that way all of the time...
so nancy, if your unable to grow them outside due to a shaded area...
it is doable to grow them indoors, despite what some experienced growers may say...
will they live for 15 years? maybe not... do vft's in the wild live that long? jeez probably not... I dont think its doing the plant injustice to grow it inside... less ideal maybe...but meh? what are ya gonna do?
I hope this doesnt affect anything scotty because I really do like looking at your bog pics... I'm pretty envious and your a knowledgable grower...
With proper care, a VFT could actually live forever. I am still growing the original VFT plants that I bought in 1955. That makes the plants 53 years old! To be sure, they have been repotted in fresh soil and divided many times. They have moved with me from house to house, town to town, and state to state.
Originally Posted by cmm889
how great right?
I'm just saying that it wouldnt be total devistation if a grower did in fact lose one and was unable to grow it for 15 years...
that vft is almost an antique!
That must be a record!!!!
I dont care that people try to grow VFTs indoors..
I would just like it if people who say things like "sure! you can grow them indoors under lights! look at mine! they are thriving!" or words to that effect,
would finish their post by also mentioning the problems with growing indoors..namely, dormancy..
the later posts in this thread by the "indoor growers" do mention that, but the earlier posts do not..
thats all im "ranting against"..not the concept itself, of growing indoors under lights..
but conviently glossing over or ignoring the big major problem with indoor growing.
it needs to be said..and I will continue to say it!