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    Talking New to CP's, need advice

    Hello,

    I am new to CP's and to plants in general. I run a custom shop and build custom cars and trucks, so this is a stretch for me, but something that I am eager to learn about. I have read and researched these plants extensively, but I still have a few questions.

    I ordered an Akai Ryu red dragon vft and a Scarlet Belle pitcher plant online on the recommendation of a friend who grows exotic peppers and has had good experiences with this vendor in the past. Being new to this, I figured I would have a better chance of success with an established plant than starting from seeds. I plan to plant both plants in a large rectangular pot and grow them in a window in my home. I have the means to keep them very humid, so I don't think a terrarium is necessary (correct me if I'm wrong). My questions are:

    Does the pitcher require a dark period every year like the vft, or will I have to separate them?

    All the research I have done indicates that these two plants should coexist happily, is there anything about keeping them together I should look out for? Or should I just leave them in seperate pots?

    I want to eventually allow to vft to flower so that I can harvest some seeds and start some new plants, but I have read that letting them flower can use up valuable energy and be detrimental to the plant, is there any way around this?

    When I receive the plants, is there any way to tell whether they've been through their dormant stage for the year, or should I assume they need to be dormant over the winter?

    Sorry for the long post, but I'm a bit excited after months of research and finally choosing and ordering my plants. I plan to add another pitcher plant, and a few different varieties of vft in the future, depending on how this first attempt goes. Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide for an eager newbie, and please be patient, as I'm sure I'll have many more newb questions.
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    Hiya, welcome to TF!

    First, I recommend growing them outside in full sun.

    1. Yes, it does, must have reduced photoperiod and lower temps.
    2. Yes, they can, but I would recommend that you have them seperate just in case, and the only thing you should look out for when VFTs and Sarrs are in the same pot is that the Sarr block's the VFT sunlight, but scarlet belle is a short one.
    3. No, but if you have very well grown VFT, it won't be too costly.
    4. To tell if they are is if they look dead.

    Hopes this helps!
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    Your Scarlet Belle will require a dormancy. Seeing that Hirt's is located in Ohio, I'd guess that they haven't received their dormancy yet and were grown in a greenhouse or outdoors. The only way to be sure is to ask the grower.

    My pitcher plants (mostly flava crosses) enjoy a higher water table while my VFT's like a lower water table getting their feet barely wet. They'll grow happily together just make sure the media doesn't get dry.

    Established plants don't really need that high of humidity as long as the media is kept moist but remember when introducing plants to a new environment they may go into shock for a while. I place a plastic dome (from Starbucks) or baggie over some plants to keep the local humidity higher and gradually cut the opening bigger over the course of a few weeks so it slowly gets acclimatized to it's new environment.

    Nothing wrong with letting your VFT flower but trap growth might generally slow down since most of the energy will be spent into flower production. If you're looking to propogate, let the flower stalk grow a bit then chop it down to 1-2" pieces and place on wet LFSM and keep it's environment humid. You'll see little nubs appear along the stalk producing new VFT's for you.

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    cannot name vendors
    and you made a mistake ordering from them IMO, the people send crappy plants...ive had bad experiance with them each time i ordered.

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    Looks like your questions are answered but I did remove the vendor names per the rules... Please read those over... General forum rules

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    Thanks for the quick responses and warm welcome! Sorry about posting the vendor name, I realized that was improper etiquette soon after the post. I wish I had known about the forum's sponsor before making my purchase!

    SirKristoff- I'm sorry about your bad experiences in the past, I hope mine is better, but I must admit that you've got me a little anxious now!

    Since I am in south carolina, and very near to several areas where these plants are found naturally (though I've never seen one in the wild), I am planning on growing them in an open window, and letting them go dormant naturally outside. They are supposed to be delivered some time next week, so I'll post again when I get them, and maybe include a pic or two. I'll keep an eye on this thread, and any info or advice in the meantime would be greatly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rice_smuggler View Post
    If you're looking to propogate, let the flower stalk grow a bit then chop it down to 1-2" pieces and place on wet LFSM and keep it's environment humid. You'll see little nubs appear along the stalk producing new VFT's for you.
    You'll have to forgive me, but I have no idea what LFSM is

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    Long Fibered Sphagum Moss.
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