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    Technically, any plant that matches the cultivar description is the cultivar unless it specifically states: "this certain clone" or "vegetative propagation only ". Cultivars are based on looks, not lineage, except when it is specified as such.

    That being said, some cultivars can be reproduced by seed and hold somewhat true, such as D. 'Petite Dragon's' bifurcated scape, but because it denotes a certain clone only (I believe), the seed result should be labeled D. 'Petite Dragon' F2 (F2 denotes second-generation crosses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKristoff View Post
    actually that is incorrect
    a very limited number of seeds may carry the cultivar trait.
    how else do you think we get many of the hybrid cultivars that are crossed between two
    a high percent, usually all will be typical but there are instances where it passes through seed.

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    Although if it does contain only a few of the traits, it is not the cultivar
    it must match description perfectly and as far as i know the only ones that can be done easily are
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    or other color variations so long as it matches perfectly with cultivar description
    Then how is it incorrect? All I said was it could be accomplished. I did not say every plant that germinates will become the cultivator.
    Under the description's of many cultivators, it is stated that the plant should not be reproduced by any other means than vegetative divisions; Some do not, which in turn indicates it is possible to reproduce them via seed. (Edit: ) Granted, you may not be successful in matching the necessary traits with your batch of seeds, it is still possible.
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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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    wasnt talking to you there didnt even see your post lol
    i was talking to those people who said cultivar could NOT transfer

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    Oh, my bad.
    lol

    Anywho, for further reference, see:
    http://terraforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119321
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    Quote Originally Posted by theyellowdart View Post
    Well, before Pyro steps in, I'd like to point out that, technically, some cultivators can be reproduced through seed. The only one I can name off of my head right now is S. leucophylla 'Hurricane Creek White,' but I know there are others.
    However, as the others said, cultivators should only be reproduced through vegetative means as a general rule.
    Yes I stand corrected. There are a few exceptions such as HWC as Dart mentioned. I still do not understand/agree with some of the criteria as to how this all works but a few members here would be able to help out much more if you have more questions Nick. I guess you must just be careful and read carefully how the cultivar is allowed to be spread. As Clue pointed out some will say vegetative propagation only (division) which means seeds is not a viable method.

    Not to point fingers but Pyro and Not a Number are a great resource.
    I had a very similar question not too long ago which they were able to help out with in regards to this matter, maybe this will help you Nick: http://terraforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119321

    Thanks for correcting me Dart



    Edit: That's the same link that Dart already posted...doy

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    Hey, no problem. I knew that you probably were already aware of that, but I just thought I would point it out for information's sake.
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