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    Post Do not believe things, even if many agree

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    There was never an original 'Dente' in circulation as such, just a number of plants with short teeth. They were variously given names such as 'Dentate' or 'Sharks Tooth Dentate' - whatever the grower fancied calling them.

    A couple were registered by Barry Rice , but going by the description on the ICPS, they are the same plant.

    Plants with numerous, jagged teeth are usually labelled "Sawtooth".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy View Post
    And to those who care I have started each in artificial propagation. And will be trading some when they get about 2 inches in diameter.

    Feel free to discuss.
    Why? Those names are all synonymous. It's the same plant, or different plants with the same characteristics.
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    VFT's aren't like other CP"s they can vary great even within a so called cultivar or clone of them, thats why you shouldn't rely on a certain set of descriptions, because not all will follow them.
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    Are you even reading the replies? Dente, Dentate Traps, and Dentate are the same cultivar that covers VFTs that fit the description (although only 'Dentate Traps' is an officially registered name)... If you check Dente and Dentate in the Carnivorous Plant Data Base you will find the following...

    [IMG]N: $[Dionaea ' Dentate ' {D'Amato}]
    P: Savage Garden:66 (1998)
    S: =[Dionaea muscipula {Soland. ex Ellis}]
    B: ?P.D'Amato Nominant: P.D'Amato, 1998
    HC: the established name for the same cultivar is [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Rice}]
    Description: Savage Garden:66 (1998) "Both (this and [Dionaea ' Dente ' {D'Amato}]) are tissue-cultured mutations. The teeth are numerous, short and jagged, like a beartrap." Propagation: vegetative (tissue culture) Etymology: after dentate (not ciliate) margin of lamina image: Check Bob Ziemer's Photo Finder

    N: $[Dionaea ' Dente ' {D'Amato}]
    P: Savage Garden:66 (1998)
    S: =[Dionaea muscipula {Soland. ex Ellis}]
    B: ?P.D'Amato
    Nominant: P.D'Amato, 1998
    HC: the established name for the same cultivar is [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Rice}]
    Description: Savage Garden:66 (1998) "Both (this and [Dionaea ' Dentate ' {D'Amato}]) are tissue-cultured mutations. The teeth are numerous, short and jagged, like a beartrap."[/IMG]
    Note specifically the part that says
    HC: the established name for the same cultivar is [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Rice}]
    for both Dentate and Dente (meaning these names are not the established name for the cultivar)

    Also note the part that says
    Both (this and [Dionaea ' Dentate ' {D'Amato}]) are tissue-cultured mutations. The teeth are numerous, short and jagged, like a beartrap.
    So really, any VFT that fits this description could be labeled as such... This is why you are seeing different plants, not because they are different cultivars, but simply different clones that match the description and so can carry the name. I have probably 10 different looking 'Dentate Traps' plants... but they all carry the official name 'Dentate Traps'.

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    Nepenthes Outdoors in CA

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    seriously, this thread again?


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