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Thread: Dionaea muscipula 'Trichterfalle' - an odd flytrap clone

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    From my understanding this clone was created by use of phytohormone treatment.

    The "scaling" appears similar to the structures you can find on the so-called "Crested Petiole" plants. I doubt it is any evolutionary throwback to a Drosera ancestor as structurally the trigger hairs are practically the same as "snap tentacles" and red glands lining the trap are almost structurally equivalent to the tentacle glands - just no tentacle or mucus production. If the plant was reqressing you would expect tentacle development on the traps not the petiole or leaf base.

    I can't think of one example of Drosera that has tirchomes (tentacles) on the petiole.

    The structures look more like plantlet buds to me. That wouldn't surprise me since the plant was tweaked out on hormones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    The "scaling" appears similar to the structures you can find on the so-called "Crested Petiole" plants.
    What "Crested Petiole" plants are you referring to? The "Crested Petioles" flytrap clone that I grow doesn't get this scaling characteristic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    I doubt it is any evolutionary throwback to a Drosera ancestor as structurally the trigger hairs are practically the same as "snap tentacles" and red glands lining the trap are almost structurally equivalent to the tentacle glands - just no tentacle or mucus production. If the plant was reqressing you would expect tentacle development on the traps not the petiole or leaf base.
    Very good points NaN.
    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    I can't think of one example of Drosera that has tirchomes (tentacles) on the petiole.
    Doesn't D. regia have tirchomes on the petiole?

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    Poke through Bob's CP photo finder:
    http://www.cpphotofinder.com/dionaea...ioles-402.html

    Technically the petiole is fused with the lamina on D. regia but there is still a region devoid of trichomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmlr38 View Post
    Thanks! And about adding it to your collection, I got it started in tissue culture this year. I have at least several hundred of them now in jars that will need to be potted out and should be available for distribution to many growers next growing season at some point. So, if you'd really like to, you should be able to get your hands on one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    Poke through Bob's CP photo finder:
    http://www.cpphotofinder.com/dionaea...ioles-402.html
    Weird! I've never seen this on my Crested Petioles plant, but it's still quite young. Maybe it will happen next year!
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    Technically the petiole is fused with the lamina on D. regia but there is still a region devoid of trichomes.
    Ah, I see. That makes sense.
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    Please add me to the "gotta have it" list. This is the one VFT I haven't ever seen for sale. Well, ok, one of two: half 'n half white variegated.
    I've been focusing on starting plants in TC that aren't widely available in the United States. We should have some nice, but very hard to find, clones to offer to hard-core Dionaea collectors next year including this one (Trichterfalle), Wacky Traps, A2 (mother plant of B52), Fuzzy Tooth, Holland Red, Spider, Creeping Death and others.

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    I'd be curious to take a leaf cutting or pulling of one with "scales" on it and see if they develop into plantlets.

    My "Crested Petioles" had very slight traces last year but this year they never really came out of dormancy and appear to have wasted away. I blame it on the odd weather this year. Most of my outdoor plants started later than usual or started out normally and just stalled.
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    Interesting mutation in a number of ways - especially that the odd traps don't really show themselves until late in the season. 'Fused tooth' traps become more fused as the season progresses but I don't think that the change is this dramatic.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmlr38 View Post
    What "Crested Petiole" plants are you referring to? The "Crested Petioles" flytrap clone that I grow doesn't get this scaling characteristic.
    Here's a pic of mine showing the 'scaling':
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