Ehhhh, well, it's still not idea for the plants (I can't afford to have it be 40 degrees in there, both because of the heating bill and because it'd kill my tropicals), but like I said, I think it's just enough to spark the "Oh, hey, it's winter, better go dormant!" feelings in the plants, lol.
But it's all going to change. For Christmas, I get to build a greenhouse in our basement! Woot!
The window isn't open, but the photoperiod has naturally decreased.
It does seem to have slowed down it's growth, but I don't know if it's in a true dormancy.
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Although the window has only been close recently--I've been gettin too cold at night. Maybe it is dormant?
Everyone has birds and squirrels..that alone isnt reason enough to keep them indoors..
Originally Posted by jebbewocky
I have read about people having problems with humans..they cant keep their plants outdoors because of idiot neighbors and general riff-raff, but if your only problem is birds and squirrels, then your plants should definately be kept outside next year..
Squirrels generally arent a big problem..once or twice a year they might try to dig in larger pots (larger than 12" diameter) but in my experience they ignore pots smaller than that..
I have had bird problems..Mother Robins love long-fibre spagnum moss in the spring, they like to steal it for nesting material..although its only a problem for a few weeks in the spring, then its fine after that...but still, I had to cover my mini-bogs with green chicken wire..(its regular chicken wire that comes coated in a green vinyl/plastic coating)..its somewhat ugly, but after a month or so that plants grow up through the wire then it isnt very noticable..
since using the wire mesh, I have had no bird or squirrel problems at all..
and my yard is overrun with both!
There are easy ways to defeat the birds and squirrels..
its not really a major problem..
keeping the plants outdoors is MUCH more important than the minor nuisance of animals..
If your plants survive the winter indoors, next spring get them outside!
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No, its probably not dormant at all..based on what you describe.
Originally Posted by jebbewocky
at this point all you can do is just keep it on the windowsill and hope for the best..dont even try to put it anywhere cold for dormancy..because its not dormant..
Many newly purchased plant are TC plants (tissue culture)..their internal clocks are all messed up anyway, they have no idea what season it is because they have never spent a year outdoors to "set the clock"..the plant will probably survive this first winter indoors..although it might weaken a bit..but assuming its still alive in the Spring, put it outside in April, leave it outside until November, then next late Autumn find a winter resting place for it, as it will be truly dormant by then, since it was outside all season..
this winter, just leave it alone and hope for the best..
where did you buy the plant? was it a "death cube" type plant?
It was sold in a plastic cube at meijer, though the box specifically said it needed to be taken out of the cube once purchase, which I did.
I'll not bother with dormancy this year and try next year.
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I might have to try a big pot of outdoor Sarracenia next year.
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And I actually like the birds ans squirrels, and use a birdfeeder so I can watch them.
woo! another convert to outdoor growing!
Welcome to the hobby jebbe, you have only just begun..
yeah, if it was a meiger "cube" plant, the plant has no idea what season it is..
it grew up in "Spring" inside a tube..was placed in its cube for shipping, probably spent a few weeks or months in the warm and dark of the store..then you bought it, gave it a better life, but its still only known Spring and Summer...it has no concept of autumn or winter..and it has to pass through autumn before it can survive winter..
I think just leaving it alone for now, on the windowsill, is the best option..
get it outside in the spring, and it will likely rebound for you then..
I'll try S.purpurea and D.rotiflunda. Both MI natives.
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I was lucky enough that several of my temperate Dews started forming hibernacula during autumn indoor. I dunno how that happened, probably during the period of time when I did not yet start turning on the heater in the apartment and also due to the reduced light cycle that I tried to mimic indoors with timers They are now resting in buckets in the refrigerator and seem to be ok.
One suggestion I was given is that you can try to force your plant to sleep by placing it in refrigerator overnight for several weeks in the row and then leaving it there completely once it shows signs of going dormant.
Given that it's a "Death-cube" plant and thus is probably "confused" as is, I think I'll leave it alone, hope for the best, and then outdoors it next spring.
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My Drosera spatulata I don't even need to do anything with, since it doesn't need any dormancy.
i think a good option to try would be to repot your plant in a much bigger pot (more wide than deep) - keeping all the curent soil and roots intact.
if you could create a miniature greenhouse to "insulate" the plant (and the extra soil is to insulate the roots) then your plant could stand a chance out on your porch - depending on how cold it gets! If your winter is pretty crazy, there may be no options for you. But im thinking... maybe 20 degrees? could be tolerable.
also it would be help to grow other winter growing plants - in other pots - inside this mini greenhouse alongside your vft.
the purpose of all of this is to insulate your plants, reduce changes in temperature, and maintain a more acceptable minimum.
while all of these things will produce negligable diffrences on their own, together they may help in your desire for an acceptable temperature (35 degrees or so)
-more soil to protect the roots
-plastic liner or otherwise to create a 'greenhouse'
-other plants to grow inside the greenhouse alongside it - growth creates warmth as waste
the final option would be to put a single bulb inside the greenhouse with it, to raise the temperature. not a grow bulb, as you dont want too much light, youre mostly interested in the ten or so degrees a light within a contained area will raise the temperature.
i hope this helps, or fosters some new ideas for you! good luck!
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Originally Posted by gill_za