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    Sounds lie it was too much too fast and they reacted. You'll just have to wait it out to see if it was only shock.

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    Thanks. I'll you know as soon as I know.

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    It's still very cold in NY so I have them back in a hallway for now. They look terrible and show no signs of recovery, but there is still some green close to the bottom so I am holding out hope.

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    It's still kind of cold in NY, but I have them outside.

    One of the three VFTs seems to be alive. It has two green stems that are growing in length and they have very tiny traps that haven't opened yet, but they look healthy.

    The other two don't look so good.

    There are a couple very tiny stems that are still green, but the tiny unopened traps seem to have dried up and died and there is no sign of fresh growth anywhere. As long as there is some green, I am holding out hope because it's still not very warm in NY. but it's not encouraging.

    I wish this wasn't my first dormancy and return so I'd have a better idea of what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcrimi View Post
    It's still kind of cold in NY, but I have them outside.
    I'm not sure what your personal definition of "kind of cold" is..
    but whatever it is, ignore it! human perceptions of cold are meaningless when it comes to plants..

    For VFT's, if its above 32 degrees F, they should be outside..
    its that simple..
    35 is warm enough, 40 is warm enough, 45 is warm enough, etc..

    and where in NY state are you that it was "kind of cold" today?!
    it was almost 80 here in Western NY..

    Scot

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    I'm in NYC. The weather got really nice for awhile, but in the last few days it got nastier and colder. The temperature dropped back into the low 50s and probably hit 40s at night. I was under the impression that they would remain in dormancy at that temperature. Are your VTFs starting to come out of dormancy now despite the volatile temperatures so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcrimi View Post
    I'm in NYC. The weather got really nice for awhile, but in the last few days it got nastier and colder. The temperature dropped back into the low 50s and probably hit 40s at night. I was under the impression that they would remain in dormancy at that temperature. Are your VTFs starting to come out of dormancy now despite the volatile temperatures so far?
    "I was under the impression that they would remain in dormancy at that temperature."
    is totally irrelevant..not something you should even worry about..
    no, they don't technically remain dormant at those temps..

    yes, the plants wont grow *quickly* when the temp is in the 40's or 50's..but that's also irrelevant! What is most important is the plants be outside in those 40 and 50 degree temps so that they *can* come out of dormancy slowly..they might not do much, visually, in March and April, but what you *cant* see happening is still happening, and its very important..what you cant see happening is that the plants are slowly "waking up"..visible, active growth will begin when its ready to begin..meanwhile its still important that the plants be allowed to be outside as temperature and photo period *very gradually* increases throughout the spring..

    We, as humans, "wake up" in the span of about a minute or less..
    plants "wake up" from dormancy over the span of 2 or 3 months..its those 30, 40 and 50 degree days in the early spring that wake them up, (and gradually increasing photo period) that's why they need to be outside in those temps..

    I have a maple tree in the front yard that fully leafed out over the past 4 days..which seems "fast"..but! it was, in reality, working on the "leafing out process" for the past 2 months..there was a lot going on that simply isn't all that visible to us..

    Same is true in the fall..people think plants "go dormant" in about the span of one month..October...in reality, plants *begin* the process of going dormant in June! when the photo period begins to decrease..

    So..my point is..you are worrying too much!
    if its above 32 degrees, leave the plants outside and don't worry about them..

    my plants aren't doing much yet..flower stalks on the sarrs are poking up, but no real VFT growth has begun yet..but that's normal for this time of year..
    May will be an active growth month! its the first "real" month of spring (weather-wise) for most of NY state..hang in there!

    Scot

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    my plants aren't doing much yet..flower stalks on the sarrs are poking up, but no real VFT growth has begun yet..but that's normal for this time of year..
    May will be an active growth month! its the first "real" month of spring (weather-wise) for most of NY state..hang in there!

    Scot
    Same here. 2 months ago, during that warm spell, I had lots of new growth and flower stalks - only to get killed when reality returned.

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