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    VFT feeding issue

    So, bought one, a month ago, about 2 inches across...

    Has been growing very nicely except for one thing... I seems to have what I would call an eating disorder...
    In the month that I've had it, it only trapped a fly on it's own, but then the trap became brown and rotten-ish, so I separated it from the leaf...

    2 days ago it caught something else (dunno what), but today there is a suspicious looking brown spot on the trap...

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they used a trap several times?
    Or am I misinformed and they use and discard them?

    Thanks!
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    Your plant has no feeding issue, and no eating disorder..
    here is the reason you think something might be wrong:

    You have only owned it a month!

    seriously..that's all it is..
    one month isnt NEARLY enough time to observe normal behavior of one plant..
    watch what it does for a year, then we can talk!

    yes, they can use a trap several times..
    but do you know how old the individual traps are?
    It sounds to me like there are no problems at all with the plant..
    everything you describe is perfectly normal..

    What are the plants growing conditions?

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    Let me see...
    Apparently peat 100%, high humidity, above 30 celsius, daily watering 3 hours of direct sunlight daily, over 6 on weekends...
    I know it isn't too much light, but only so can I avoid another plantocalypse...
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    It's best for flytraps to have either sand or perlite in the mix, but it shoudln't be really a problem soil wise. However, flytraps need as much as, if not more, sun that Sarracenia, with 6 + hours being minumum. If they don't get this, then the traps rot from food due to energy use. Not sure whether the high humidity+high temps are any part of it, but if it is due to a container, it could be death to the plant. Where is it being kept? I live in Colorado, with famously low humidity, and the plants survive outside in no more that 40% humidity due to the pool they sit in, and they have flowered and set seed, with inch long traps plus for over two years now.
    Last of all, if the meal extends outside the trap, that can also "overfertilize" the leaf and rot it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEELE1 View Post
    Let me see...
    Apparently peat 100%, high humidity, above 30 celsius, daily watering 3 hours of direct sunlight daily, over 6 on weekends...
    I know it isn't too much light, but only so can I avoid another plantocalypse...
    that sounds pretty good!
    using pure water too? (rain water, RO, or distilled)
    yeah, the light is on the low side, but it should be enough, for now..
    try to increase it if you can though..but if not, its not a deal breaker for the short term..

    what do you mean by "daily watering"? are they sitting in trays of water?
    if not, they should be..

    Quote Originally Posted by SEELE1 View Post
    I know it isn't too much light, but only so can I avoid another plantocalypse.
    wait.what? im not sure what that means..are you saying you are giving them less light on purpose?
    if so, stop doing that!
    if you can give them more light, you absolutely should..when it comes to VFT's, there is no such thing as too much direct sunlight.
    more is better, less is worse..

    Quote Originally Posted by hcarlton View Post
    It's best for flytraps to have either sand or perlite in the mix,
    Not really true..perlite or sand is a preference, not a recommendation..
    I doubt there is any evidence that sand or perlite in the mix is "better"..
    I have been using pure peat for nearly 20 years..no problems at all.
    I tried peat & sand mix for one season probably 15 years ago..hated it..too dense and solid.
    I tried peat & perlite..hated it..the perlite is ugly, floats to the top, and serves no useful purpose that I can see..
    So I switched to pure peat and never looked back..(with a top dressing of LFS to keep rain from splashing the peat around)

    Quote Originally Posted by hcarlton View Post
    with 6 + hours being minumum. If they don't get this, then the traps rot from food due to energy use.
    Also not true..
    I agree that "more is better"..and everyone should strive to give their VFT's and Sarrs as much direct sun as possible,
    but I have some flytraps that get 4 to 5 hours of direct sun a day..they have been thriving for 6 years in that spot.
    personally, based on experience, I would consider 4 hours the absolute minimum..less than that can be problematic..
    but 4 hours works, the plants dont die, even if it isn't ideal..

    Quote Originally Posted by hcarlton View Post
    If they don't get this, then the traps rot from food due to energy use.
    dont know where you heard that, but..not true.

    Scot
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    oh wow..I just noticed two things that didnt quite register before.."Mexico" and "30 degrees Celsius"!
    ok, maybe you are the exception to the "no such thing as too much light" rule..
    your climate is a bit extreme for VFT's...not so extreme that you cant grow them!
    but your sun and temps is actually a bit more than they are used to!
    (I have the exact opposite problem..I live significantly *north* of their native range..my main problem for much of the year is keeping them warm enough!

    So ok..maybe in your case, there is something to be said for keeping the sunlight down a bit!
    (but you are a rare exception)

    still..if you can give them 6 to 8 hours of direct sun a day, that would be good..
    but 12 or more hours of direct sun, with temps about 30C, could defiantly be too harsh..
    where I am, 12 hours would be great!..but most of my summer days are 20 to 25C..
    more light is fine if its cooler..
    with your harsh temps, I can see why you might want to cut back on the light..

    shoot for 6 to 8 hours of sun if you can..

    how are you going to handle winter dormancy?

    Scot

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    What I meant by energy use, should really be more along the lines of it overfertilizes the leaf. Every flytrp I've ever seen that didn't get enough light,and was fed, was not able to finish the job before the leaf, old or new, rotted. I'm just writing form personal experience, different places may mean different outcomes.
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