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    Every year when my VFT tries to flower I usually cut the flower stalks off as soon as I see them and my plants always divide themselves after that. I've never taken photo's of this, just figured it was a natural response of the plant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylesG View Post
    lol this thread is going nowhere fast...
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plant Planter View Post
    I agree.
    me too! but the reason it is "going nowhere fast" is simple..
    Fred is simply deliberately ignoring all the good points that have been made against his assertion..
    if you ignore rebuttals to your argument, you never have to admit you might be wrong..

    (well..technically he isn't wrong..but he is only right if plants are in perfect health..
    the other side of the coin is..plants are not always in perfect health..)

    Scot
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    me too! but the reason it is "going nowhere fast" is simple..
    Fred is simply deliberately ignoring all the good points that have been made against his assertion..
    if you ignore rebuttals to your argument, you never have to admit you might be wrong..

    Scot
    I'm not ignoring any good points Scotty, I simply haven't seen any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredg View Post
    I'm not ignoring any good points Scotty, I simply haven't seen any.
    Which proves my point!

    Scot

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    (well..technically he isn't wrong..but he is only right if plants are in perfect health..
    the other side of the coin is..plants are not always in perfect health..)

    Scot
    Now in your edit you make a good point, the same as I said in the first place I believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredg View Post
    Now in your edit you make a good point, the same as I said in the first place I believe
    I made that edit about 2 minutes before your reply!
    you were probably typing your reply as I made the edit..

    right..that is what you said in the first place..and I agreed with that, but then went on to suggest
    there is more to the story than that, and made new points..

    but then you went on to make *only* your original point again several times, without seeming
    to acknowledge, or even be aware, that the rest of us also had legit points..

    You are right, but you are only right about half the topic!
    the other half you have not acknowledged at all..
    which is fine I guess..I think all the various points have now been quite well made!

    Scot

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    My two cents.

    I understand what Fredg is saying, but the main point I see is that we are not growing them in their natural conditions, we grow them in artificial conditions and that can make a significant difference in how they react to flowering. Apples and oranges. Most VFT growers strive for bigger traps and more prolific growth and manipulate growing conditions to achieve such, cutting flower stalks is simply one way to do this. It is also a good way to minimize stress to plants grown in suboptimal conditions.

    In my personal experience, not only do they reproduce faster but also produce bigger traps after cutting the flower stalks, and makes perfect sense to me it is due to energy going to that instead of seed production even with my limited to nil scientific knowledge. I do the same with sarrs that have been recently divided, cut the flower stalks so the energy can go to repair and better pitcher production the following year.

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