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    The learning curve for TC is not too difficult. It's the practice of sterile culture that can be challenging. Usually this requires much trial and error before being able to do it consistently without contamination. I would say that the "practice" learning curve for tissue culture can be both frustrating and can take a while to figure out. Other than that, it is not too difficult, depending on what you want to do

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    Not sure I have the patience to just let the B52s grow for a few months, but I will try.

    Sterile cultures would probably be very difficult to keep sterile! I think I should stick to the old fashioned methods.

    I opened up the terrarium a bit, but if I put the B52s outside I think someone would steal them.

    How fast can VFT seedlings grow to a descent size with extra light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katya_dog1 View Post
    "Steep" learning curve? Heck no. It is an investment to begin for sure, but on another forum there is a guy who just started TC'ing a couple years ago. He has great success now, as is obvious in the health of his plants.
    For someone asking for the fastest way to clone & propogate his/her vfts, plus currently growing them in an enclosed container, we can safely assume that this member is still in the learning phase for dionaea plants; hence, a leap directly into the world of tissue culturing would definitely be steep & is really jumping the gun here. I may be ahead of myself if he/she already has experience in TC, but I conclude not since the question with an obvious answer was asked.
    There are two general approaches to tissue culturing (assuming you're a hobbiest). The first being the careful way involving time & effort in preparation. The second being simply jumping into it reading a few threads or maybe a tutorial on the subject. If the second approach is chosen, you'll most likely end up researching after numerous failures & questions or quitting b/c lack of foundation. Either way, you may as well read read & read b/c you will not start mass producing plants overnight. By the way, I'm not at all a professional as some may be. I learned about TC with much research as a kid & also learned about it in college, but I'm simply a home TC hobbiest of many years experience who is still learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinthetrap View Post
    Not sure I have the patience to just let the B52s grow for a few months, but I will try.

    Sterile cultures would probably be very difficult to keep sterile! I think I should stick to the old fashioned methods.

    I opened up the terrarium a bit, but if I put the B52s outside I think someone would steal them.

    How fast can VFT seedlings grow to a descent size with extra light?
    If they're actual seedlings, and not pullings, then 2-3 years. Maybe a little less if you consistently hand-feed them and trim the traps when they start to blacken to preserve the leaves.

    If pullings, with hand-feeding and trimming, you can get a mature-sized plant in around 6-8 months (assuming the pulling was from a mature plant itself).

    Secondly, if you have no patience, you're in the wrong hobby. :P

    Not really, the plants grow fast enough to keep even ME interested, but propagating is another matter entirely. That takes time, pure and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckles View Post
    For someone asking for the fastest way to clone & propogate his/her vfts, plus currently growing them in an enclosed container, we can safely assume that this member is still in the learning phase for dionaea plants; hence, a leap directly into the world of tissue culturing would definitely be steep & is really jumping the gun here. I may be ahead of myself if he/she already has experience in TC, but I conclude not since the question with an obvious answer was asked.
    There are two general approaches to tissue culturing (assuming you're a hobbiest). The first being the careful way involving time & effort in preparation. The second being simply jumping into it reading a few threads or maybe a tutorial on the subject. If the second approach is chosen, you'll most likely end up researching after numerous failures & questions or quitting b/c lack of foundation. Either way, you may as well read read & read b/c you will not start mass producing plants overnight. By the way, I'm not at all a professional as some may be. I learned about TC with much research as a kid & also learned about it in college, but I'm simply a home TC hobbiest of many years experience who is still learning.
    You're correct, I didn't think about that. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katya_dog1 View Post
    You're correct, I didn't think about that. Sorry.
    Thats ok, I'm actually glad you mentioned it b/c otherwise I would have been too lazy to add my input =P

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    I would start here, in Barry Rice's FAQ. Look under advanced. It does not discuss tissue culture, but it gives you a great overall look at making more little flytraps vegetatively.
    http://www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq2000.html


    As others have said, horticulture is all about patience. Again, what's the rush? Sit back, enjoy your B-52s, and watch them grow. In next to no time, botanically speaking, they'll start filling out, and you can take the *occasional* leaf pull or division. If you want to wait a bit longer, let your plants bulk up so that you can let them flower and set seed. Remember, though, that seeds of B-52 does not a B-52 make. 'Tis the nature of cultivars and seedling variety.
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    I am definitely interested in making some B52 seeds. Genetics is fascinating.

    A seedling of a B52 could be the next best cultivar =)

    My cat tried to kill my butterwort, so I thought a box would be a good idea.

    I have a slightly smaller box with no top at all, but I think VFT will grow just fine in a 100% enclosed terrarium.

    I definitely do not have 2 or 3 years worth of patience, but I think I can cut that estimate in half with enough light.

    I grew a Sundew from a tiny plant with just a few leaves to flowering in 4 months with just 24 little RGB LEDs.

    One time I captured a very fat fly and hand fed it to my venus fly trap. After a week or so the trap rotted and I noticed some maggots coming out of it.

    The VFT and the Fly's both benefited from this encounter, so I see the two as having a symbiotic relationship.

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