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    Okie Dokie, so what might I be able to do that's agreeable light-wise? I've tried a 15 watt florescent bulb, but then the terrarium only maintains our room temp. of 70 degrees and I thought that wasn't warm enough?

    Thanks for all the help so far everyone, I may not give up yet after all! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
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    From what I have read, it sounds like your current light is too hot for the VFTs to maintain mosture in thier leaves. I have worked in greenhouses where the termperature is so hot that no matter how much water the plants are given, they just wilt.

    70 degrees should be ok for VFTs. Mine are being grown between 70 - 78 degrees indoors and up to 98 degrees in a terrarium on my back porch.

    To see my plants: Nick's Carnivorous Plants

    I have my VFTs in my terrarium planted direct in live long fiber sphagnum moss. The moss was dead when purchased, but started to grow over time. The plants indoors are planted directly into a mixture of peat andperlite. These are being grown under cool white fluorescents. The two smaller lamps in my indoor growth terrarium are compact fluorescent bulbs.

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    Thank-you Nick. based on what I have been reading here, I have transplanted my VFT's back into their origional pots. So they are seperate again and can be moved any time without having to transplant again! Also, I have put them outside for a period of direct natural sunlight. The only problem with that is, the humidity outdoors here is barely above 40%.
    My terrarium is still filled with the rock and soil (basically because I could find no-where else to put it without wasting it&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] and I just dug holes in the soil to place my seperately-potted VFT's. If 70 degrees should be fine, then I may be better off to leave the lid off altogether. The plants get no "direct" sunlight where the terrarium is though, so should a florescent light be necessary, or should it be fine as is? (It's by no means dark where the terrarium is...it's in the livingroom which has a huge bay window. It just so happens that the sunlight that comes in that window does not shine directly to the side of the room the terrarium is on at any time of day).

    Gee, not only am I feeling slightly hopeless about my plants, but I feel like I'm driving everyone else here crazy! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
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    Another question for you... The grow light you mentioned being in your terrarium, is this a fluorescent bulb or a incondescent bulb? If it is a flourescent grow light, you should be fine. Ifits a incondescent, it will be much too hot.

    It is alos possible that the rock used in your setup is releasing harmfull minerals into the soil and killing off the VFTs.

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    It doesn't say...only "broad spectrum" it's a "day Glo Neodymium Daylight Lamp for desert and tropical environements. I found it at a pet store with the lights you buy for an aquarium with snakes and lizards. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]
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    Hello C-Newbie [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

    I don't think I've said hi so....HI! Don't give up on your VFTs! I had one repeatedly dug up and mutilated by squirrels and now that I have it wired for protection, its put up two new leaves! Tough little bugger. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

    Don't worry so much about humidity. Often, when new to growing VFTs, people think they need high humidity and heat like a tropical plant. But these guys originate around the Carolinas' coast so they aren't in hot and steamy conditions like a rainforest or anything.

    My VFTs were never happy in a terrarium (although others do grow them that way). If it all possible to grow outside, I'd recommend that or perhaps a sunny window sill. If you keep the soil wet and the pot in a saucer of pure water, thats all the humidity they need. They also appreciate the air ciruclation. Sometimes when kept enclosed, they will 1) get too hot 2) rot/mold from lack of air circulation.

    You've already put them back in pots. That will help I think. Now just give them sunlight OR good fluorescent lighting (low heat output) and lots of water, and you should see some new growth after a while. Give them some time to recuperate.

    And NO, you're not driving everyone here crazy. Everyone here has been in your shoes...and killed a VFT or two...or three. lol So ask all the questions you want...thats why this forums exists. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] Hang around and you'll learn lots.

    I hope they get better and you try more CPs. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Just an afterthought...for artificial lighting...I use two 40-watt fluorescents...1 Gro-Lux and 1 cool white tube per fixture. Some people use Sunsticks. My plants seem happy with the Gro-Lux/cool white mix. You can get those at any hardware store. Incandescent lights get tooooo hot.

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    Thank-you Plantakiss, That's encouraging! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
    They are outside on my fence now getting some sunlight. I'm thinking it might be an idea to leave the lid off my terrarium for awhile. The lid is by no means air-tight, but it is a complete cover. I don't know if that's too suffocating for them or not. Mostly I've been using that light during the day and leaving the lid half open on either side at the top to allow circulation. I'm still lost, but hopefully I'll get there! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
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