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    "It's OK for me to be an atheist and SF and Spec (among others) to be Christians. We can co-exist in an atmosphere of mutual respect (in fact, we can only co-exist in that atmosphere.) These are always touchy subjects, and it's easy to think the other side are morons. (They almost never really are.) As long as we realize we are on the same side, and keep reminding ourselved of that, we can have these discussions without acrimony."

    I agree 100% [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/alien.gif[/img] I don't care if people ahve different religions than me, that does not keep me from befreinding people. heck, I've been freinds with people with pretty much every religion known, and we get along just fine. The cp world is a peacefull one, no matter what the religion. Lets keep it at that. (and maybe lock this topic to prevent a possible argument.) [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
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    EDIT: as someone said earlyer, there is really no point in this topic, as obiously no one is going to change their belifes. i know this topic will go on and on untill it becomes a riot, lets lock it.

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    I agree with Spec at all points.

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    This has been proved by science; that the Bible is the most reliable book ever written. I wish I could find my science book to find some more interesting facts for you.

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    he said it very clearly right here:
    "Well first of all God wrote the Bible. Yes he used people to physically write it but the words are his. God told them what to write." that is speaking for God. no one can prove any of that is true, therefore it might not be, therefore it is saying you KNOW the mind of God..[/QUOTE]

    Actually yes, the Bible tells us that when we develope an intimate relationship with Him that he will tell us His thought
    "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ." 1 Corinthians 2:16.

    [/QUOTE]not at all! im saying that if GOOD vikings, hindus, wiccans, ancient Egyptians, etc, lived good lives and did what their God considered rightious, then they would be rewarded by going to their particular version of heaven.
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    I seem to remember ancient civilizations sacrificing women and children to the gods. Even today that kind of idolism is mad. That is murder by ALL standards.

    [/QUOTE]What about all the Christians who were told to convert and/or kill the entire world? (the crusades)
    what about the Catholics and Protestants in Ireland today who were told to kill each other?
    Wouldn't this mean God had either lied to one side or made a mistake? [QUOTE]

    That time period was as many people call the dark age. During that time Catholics dominated Christianity. They called themselves Roman Catholics; and they adopted much of what the Romans had adopted(which was corrupt). In that time the priests were the only ones that had acsess to the Bible. The services the they conducted became shows. The songs and sermons were in Latin(only the "highclass" knew latin; and the high class was made up of the priests). It was not until The Renaissance(1350-1600) that the Bible became acsessible to the public. John Wycliff(c.1329-1384) had the Bible translated into English. It was not until Johann Gutenberg(1400?-146[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/alien.gif[/img] invented the movable-type printing press(1440), that the Bible was able to be produced unless written. Gutenberg printed his first Bible in 1456. This was called the Gutenburg Bible in his honour. By 1500 when the Modern Age began, there was an estimated 9 million books in Europe(including the Bible) in contrast to a few thousand before that time.

    I can't tell you exactly when the Christianity that is around today first made a comeback from the Dark ages, but I can tell you this if someone does mass killings or illeagal stuff, and claims to do it in the name of Christ, they are DEAD wrong. If God said to kill people in His name then everything would be off. They Bible states all over it that we are not to kill and that we should obey the law. He knew we would mess up, though. That is exactly why He sent Jesus Christ.

    And one more interesting fact. They Bible is the most stolen book in the world.

    Islam Actually rose in A.D. 600. The Egyptian civilization began between 2300 & 2200 B.C.. The Greek City-states rose in 700 B.C.. The Latins established the Roman Republic in 509 B.C.

    Another interesting fact. One of the books of the Bible was written in 535 B.C. This was written by Daniel who was near his death. He, through God, prophesied that Rome would rise. "And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as Iron." Daniel 2:40 You can see the Babylon empire as No.1, you can see the Persian empire as No. 2, you can see the Greek empire as No. 3 and you see the Roman empire as No. 4. Daniel wrote this nearly 100 years before it happened.

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    The Bible is not everything, Don't believe everything you read.[/QUOTE]


    But it is everything. How can you not believe everything in the Bible when it is the word of God? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

    I realize that everyone will believe what they believe and this freedom of religion is what makes this country great. It was good discussing with you all and i wish all of you the best.



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    Caplock I forgot you in my last post, sorry, [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] I embrace your atheist views even if I don't agree with you about the no God thing.

    I think it is really unfair to believe that your religion, your Bible, your whatever is the only true way to get to God. I believe Heaven and God is open to all sentient beings.
    As long we all respect each other's differences and live and let live we'll be alright!

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    Quote (LOs Angels Traphole @ July 22 2003,12:03)
    Caplock I forgot you in my last post, sorry, [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] I embrace your atheist views even if I don't agree with you about the no God thing.

    I think it is really unfair to believe that your religion, your Bible, your whatever is the only true way to get to God. I believe Heaven and God is open to all sentient beings.
    As long we all respect each other's differences and live and let live we'll be alright![/QUOTE]
    It's his life, he can have whatever religion he wants to have. There was really no point in saying that, as it will just cause an outbreak and argument. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

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    Spec,
    It's his life, he can believe anything about religions he wants to. There was really no point in saying that, as it will just cause an outbreak and argument. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

    Scot [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

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    Scot,

    It's his life, he can have believe anything about religions he wants to. There was really no point in saying that, as it will just cause an outbreak and argument.

    Sorry just had to say that! LOL!!! I think the point has been made on all sides.

    SF

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