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    Can anyone tell the history of the venus-flytrap and how did it possibly evolve?

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    There are lots of holes in religion though. I believe in God but hasn't evolution been proved over and over? E.g. moths that become dark brown in cities to be camouflaged against dirty buildings, but are paler in the countryside.

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    Woah, sorry [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Hi guys

    I feel kinda outta my depth here in the VFT room but this converstion has gotten interesting and I feel compelled to join in as I have quite strong opinions on this subject.

    Daniel you seem like a smart kid but please, open your mind a little and accept theories that don't always immediately seem right or correct.

    I HAVE read the bible, a couple of times. And an English version of the Koran, and quite a few of the Hindu stories. Indonesia (where I live) is the most populous Muslim country in the world and Bali itself is 90% Hindu.
    I am not going to get into a debate with you on the accuracy or legitamacy of the bible although this would be LOTS of fun (my wife is very Christian and I love sparring with her) - you'll believe what you will and I don't even want to change your mind, but please accept that others will have their own beliefs and you probably can't change their minds either.

    Relax... accept that the world is more interesting BECAUSE it's all different.

    cheers my friend, fatboy.

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    Looks like Daniel has deleted his post [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

    (Edited by Alvin Meister at 3:49 pm on Aug. 29, 2001)

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    omg i read that thesis like two years ago...it's so great isn't it?[img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Well, As any of you know from GardenWeb, this is a highly charged topic, and since I didn't get to read Daniels origional post I think I am going to try and refrain from it.

    I would also caution each of you, not to hold your point of view, whether it be Christian, Muslim, Creationist, Or Evolutionist, as infallable, proved, and so on.

    Christianity is my way of life, so I believe in it's precepts, concepts, and the Bible, almost blindly, for reasons that are frankly unexplainable in a simple post. All I can say is it's spiritual. At the same time, I recognize that my religion is responsible for some of, if not all, the largest massacares and wars in the history of Man Kind. (Read Crusdades)

    As for Evolution, No, it has not been proved over and over, I ask you to examine the scientific method, and apply it to evolution, and then tell me where the hypothesis was TESTED and confirmed as a theory. The same is true of Creationism. They are both Hypothesies on the way the world was created.

    Alvin, here is a quick article you can read, whether it means much or not, who knows... consider it personal enrichment and take it as you please! :o)

    http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclo...ppered%20Moths

    For Everyone:

    I think understanding the origin of our plants is a wonderful, and needed thing. However, let me caution all of you that especially in this time, we need to be tolerant, polite, restrained, and considerate of other peoples views. SO I am going to lay down some ground rules in this topic.

    1) If you insult anyone, I am going to ask Phil to Ban you.

    2) If the topic get's to heated, and argument, rather than debate starts to break out, I will lock it down, and it will be over.

    unlike other forums, This one is all about the free flow of ideas, but format those ideas properly. Thanks

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