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    Quote[/b] (PinguiculaMan @ Feb. 07 2004,13:18)]My practice has been to let them do what they do. If a plant flowers, I try to inspire viable seed by making sure each flower gets plenty of pollen on its receptive stigma. Mine have been blooming and setting seed all winter. For me, seed means a chance for more beautiful VFT plants.

    I have often read and heard about how VFTs are weakened by flowering [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img], this remains a mystery to me. The only thing I have that seems to bother my VFTs are attacks of spider mites, so when I grow them as semi-aquatics (submerged each time I water them), which I often do, they usually aren't bothered by the mites.

    Heck, when I was a "beginner" with CP. I had one VFT plant. When it bloomed, I kept my eye on the flowers and noticed when the stigma opened up like a mop, I put pollen on the stigma from the stamens of the same flower. I did this with all the flowers on that one plant. A few weeks later I had more than 30 seeds. I planted them and had excellent germination. The only observation of note was that the plant, while blooming and producing seed, did not make more new leaves, this was true until I had removed the ripe seed. After that the plant continued to grow new leaves with a renewed vigor. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
    To be more technically accurate. A VFT will flower as a last ditch effort at survival when in bad conditions. The flowering is more of a sign of the end then the cause in those situations, but the plant will use up everything it's got if it intends that flower to be it's last at which point you will not want that flower to grow if you want to revive your ill plant with any amount of ease. Thats why I always say that if your let the plant flower it MAY crash out, not that it will. And if you're new to growing, your plant is not only more likely to crash from stresses, but it will be harder for you to revieve it if it does. As a general rule of thumb. I don't let them flower withing 3 months of perchase in case they were in cruddy conditions or treated with growth hormones and weakend. After that, I trust my conditions enough to let them do their thing [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
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    Thanks Wesley,

    I'll stick with Schnells advice. It must be what D'amato meant. Once you've seen the FLOWER cut it off, not just the stalk. Great. I'll let my Akai Ryu keep it coming. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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    Darcie wrote:
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]To be more technically accurate. A VFT will flower as a last ditch effort at survival when in bad conditions. The flowering is more of a sign of the end then the cause in those situations ...
    That may be one example, but not the general case. In the wild and under cultivation conditions that mimic those found in the wild, VFTs usually initiate flower growth in the spring immediately after coming out of winter dormancy. Seed production is certainly a survival strategy of plants, but not necessarily the "last ditch effort at survival"

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Odysseus @ Feb. 09 2004,11:05)]Thanks Wesley,

    I'll stick with Schnells advice. It must be what D'amato meant. Once you've seen the FLOWER cut it off, not just the stalk. Great. I'll let my Akai Ryu keep it coming. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
    Odysseus,
    If you let the flower bloom you might as well polinate it and try to get seed, the damage is done. Clip the stalk immediately when you see it. If it sends up another, cut that one too. Check out the FAQ page on VFT flowers here: http://www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq2470.html Now I will grant you that Barry tends to lean towards the doom side of things in these pages, and I have heard many many success stories with VFT flowers. If you wish to obtain seed, and you feel comfortable with your ability to do so without killing the parent plant, then by all means go right ahead. If however you are NOT after seed, or don't think you have the skill to do so successfully, then clip clip clip.

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    " each flower gets plenty of pollen on its receptive stigma. "

    How do I apply the pollen. is a fan enough stimulation, do spiders work. How did you do it.

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    A small soft dry paintbrush works well. Ive used q-tips and toothpicks on Drosera flowers. In some cases VFT flowers will pollinate themselves as the flowers shrivel up. For more details on the process, check out the FAQ: http://www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq2480.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]How do I apply the pollen. ... How did you do it.
    The best way is to simply bend one flower over and rub the anthers (pollen sacs) to the stigma of another flower that has opened several days earlier. The anthers ripen several days before the stigma of the same flower is receptive -- so although it is possible to pollinate a flower with itself, it works better to use one flower to pollinate another flower when both are at the optimal state.

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    why does this flower have no leaf http://www.sarracenia.com/photos2/dmusc27.jpg

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