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    there is nothing "pessimistic" about it! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
    If someone said "can I grow VFT's outside year-round in Siberia?"
    and I said "death death death!" would that be "pessisimistic"?
    nope..just the truth..
    its exactly the same thing with the computer growing..
    there is a big difference between being a realist and being a pessimist!
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    Yea, you have a point...
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    yea yea, i left all the adult cp's outside 4 my first dormancy stage! wish them luck
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    scottychaos- i've had my two vft's growing under a compact flouro for nearly four months now, on the shelf on top of my desk, and they're doing fantastically [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] they're just out of t/c so i don't know if that has anything to do with it but i haven't had any problems so far, and the traps have all turned beautiful shades of maroon-red.
    "Seeds? Oh yeah... sometimes I forget they grow from those. I feel like they should hatch or something."

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    Hi Moonflower: Mr. Chaos hasn't logged on yet, so i'll fill in for a moment. I bought a VFT in June of 2003 from Home Depot. I couldn't possibly tell if it was fresh out of tissue culture or not, but its traps grew to be 1" within two months. So I suspect that the plant must be a year or two or three old. Logically, that tells me that the supplier must have been doing some semblence of seasonal sensitivity, or this plant would be very weak. I don't know what goes on from the supplier's end, but I strongly believe I bought an adult plant and it should have been put through dormancy at some point.

    Anyways, no matter what it went through before me, I put it through dormancy and it rewarded me with a flower in the spring. In august a bought a trio of red VFT's, that were obviously smaller and younger and of course newer than the afore-mentioned. I put those through dormancy as well. Two of the three gave me a flower in the spring.

    Does anybody know how old a VFT has to be in order to flower? Let's assume it needs to be at least a couple of years old. In order to make it to two years old and be healthy enough, it probably went through dormancy. At the very least, the plants I bought weren't purchased too late in the year, as to not appreciate the sleep. Bottom line: I would strongly recommend providing yours with dormancy.

    BTW, how have the midterms been treating you? Are you surviving dining hall food? Ever hear of Huntington? Or Harborfields?

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    VFT's are odd, Jim. How they react depends on the plant, and what it feels like doing. I have had VFT's flower at 2 (told it could never happen), but somebody forgot to tell the plant. Typically, 4 to 7 years in the wild to flower. However, domesticated VFT's can even grow in warmer conditions, and still survive. It is a good idea to give them dormancy, but they can take a year or 3 or 4 that they can survive warmer conditions. I would imagine it having to do with, say, unseasonably warm winters, as can occasionally happen in North Carolina. Probably a built in survival mechanism, though hard to say for sure. I have always felt more comfortable allowing them to have a dormancy, but in Southern California, where it is always nice weather (Oceanside, Vista, Camp Pendleton area), they had 6 warm winters and grew just the same. They took the winter rosette growing habit, and just kept going. Never put your eggs in one basket with CP. You can miss a lot. Plants don't read, and no one has been telling them what we think they need. Mostly, the rules are pretty good concerning their habits, but because they do what they do, be prepared for some straight up suprises. Like growing them on a computer desk using incandescent light. It'll work for a while, but go get 100 watt Gro-lux bulbs for the winter, 10 hour photoperiod, place plant in 2 inch deep water container, filled with distilled/ro/rain water, for humidity, and watch the plant. See how it reacts to its situation, and act accordingly. If it shows no ill effects, enjoy it. If it appears drying and wilting, it ain't happy, and again act accordingly. Keep your light 8" away from the plant. It will do OK if it is happy, for the winter. Come spring, SUN POWER!!!!!!!!!! It does need that for sure. And do allow dormancy from time to time. The plants will adjust or let you know if they think you inept. Experiment, but not at the cost of their lives. You should know if they like it or not by looking at them everyday to make sure they are responding, and how they are responding.



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    Mr. Chaos still hasn't logged in yet, but given a choice between 42 years growing and 1.3 years growing, I'd go with the 42! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
    Just a wee bit more wisdom coming from the other side of the country!

    Steve, I just noticed something: You joined the forums at about the same time I did and your PM to me, shortly thereafter, about the Darlingtonia, might have been the first PM I received.

    To make things clear about the dormancy for the VFT's in question, does this mean that you are not necessarily disuading her from doing so, but that it isn't as necessary as some of us relatively new folks believe / have been told / read in books?

    Related to this is the Darlingtonia I purchased last November, in contrast to our respective VFT purchases in June. My Darlingtonia came from one of those plastic cubes from Lowes. Was it out of tisue culture? You strongly urged me to give it dormancy that winter and I never got the temp down any lower than 50 degrees. Of course the photoperiod was sufficiently reduced and the plant never did look healthy again, though it DID send out a few new pitchers, before it took its permanent vacation down the streamlet last summer. Why would it be more important for the Darlingtonia to have a dormancy when purchased in November that the VFT's purchased in June? Before I or others dispense less than perfect dormancy advice again, could you give us more details of the whys and wherefores?

    Also, remember the capensis you advised me about, after nearly killing it? It is still alive. I have had it outside since May and it is currently flowering - it's third flower. Strange litle plant!

    Here is that crazy capensis I nearly killed:

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    I heard pingman bloomed a vft at 1 year from seed:O
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