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    From what i've seen with the scott's brands and a few other brands of peat is that they tend to put wetting agents into the mix. Scott's processes a lot of fertilizer in there facilities, so just like a nut ending up in a plain chocolate bar, it's only safe to assume that the same could happen with fertilizer.

    Fertilized and wetting agents are both pretty bad for cp's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Travis @ Dec. 02 2004,7:52)]
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    Quote[/b] (pond boy @ Dec. 02 2004,8:39)]You rigorously wash your peat?
    Depends what you mean by rigorously washing? Putting the peat in a big pot with distilled water. Then wash for about 3 to 5 minutes. I call that a good wash...
    I leave it for a week in pure water then I ring it out and repeat,then it goes into my hanging baskets for the rain to leach out minerals So I`d say you`re a partial member of "the dirty elbows club"
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    For VFT's I don't' think it's really needed to wash it as long as it comes from a good source. But for other genres of cp's like the harder drosera's, as Tamlin says "Wash your Peat!"
    Yeah, my old bag of scotts peat moss has the exact same picture and the bag is brownish in color.
    So far I would Avoid any of the smaller specialty bags, but I have to admit that Schultz peat moss is a VERY good brand to get. The peat is of superior quality better then any other I've seen.
    But to be near 100% sure that the bag is good peat, I always go for the big blocks of compressed peat for 7.00. It's alot cheaper and it's a pretty good texture but some are better then others. The one I'm using is from a canadian source and has some French/English writing and works very well for me. Most of the time those don't come with fertilizer unless mentioned, which I know miricle grow peat moss does have some type of fertilizer. Peat and LFS is good for VFT's, but IME peat does better. Maybe because it has the little nutrients that VFT's need to grow superior. But again that is from my experience. I rarely see any wild VFT's growing in pure LFS since they grow on a more elevated ground draining water which most of the time offers only springy lfs growth here and there. That's why it is advised that VFTs should not be sitting on water... and only top watered when needed.

    Any play sand that is pure white is good. Avoid that ones that crumble easily or doesn't look like quartz/salt grains. Those are Non silica types which I'm unsure about. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (peter @ Dec. 03 2004,3:15)]For VFT's I don't' think it's really needed to wash it as long as it comes from a good source. But for other genres of cp's like the harder drosera's, as Tamlin says "Wash your Peat!"
    Yeah, my old bag of scotts peat moss has the exact same picture and the bag is brownish in color.
    So far I would Avoid any of the smaller specialty bags, but I have to admit that Schultz peat moss is a VERY good brand to get. The peat is of superior quality better then any other I've seen.
    But to be near 100% sure that the bag is good peat, I always go for the big blocks of compressed peat for 7.00. It's alot cheaper and it's a pretty good texture but some are better then others.

    Any play sand that is pure white is good. Avoid that ones that crumble easily or doesn't look like quartz/salt grains. Those are Non silica types which I'm unsure about. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
    Great! Well get the Schultz peat moss and if possible find some play sand. I know it may not need to be washed but just to be safe. I will pick some up this weekend, then have it ready by spring. Thanks [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

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    Quote[/b] ]I leave it for a week in pure water then I ring it out and repeat,then it goes into my hanging baskets for the rain to leach out minerals So I`d say you`re a partial member of "the dirty elbows club"
    You are not kidding you are part of the "Dirty Elbow Club"! Holly Cow that is a process! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] I will give it a much through washing come spring.
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    Lol. I`ve learned the hard way to wash! I use the big block of canadian thats normaly like $8(Mine was $2) I agree vfts are pretty tough to nutrients if they are mature...I use industrial quartz sand wich I tested with phospheric acid and it didn`t buble (If you put it on concrete it would burn a hole though)...pretty powerful stuff..and the sand is good although I use a 2\1 ratio with peat,becausee it`s a little bit fine compared to like perlite
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    Just a forewarning Travis, I would still go with the big bulk peat instead of schultz. It maybe because I was lucky, and the bag you buy might be a little different so if possible go with the big blocks of peat. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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