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Thread: Help... again! vft terrarium dormancy in fl?

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    Ok, its December... my VFT is ok (not great) and now I'm wondering if I need to make it go dormant (after I can get rid of the mushrooms thats is lol). If so, how? Put the whole terrarium (its just the VFT) in the fridge? Its less than a year old I do believe (got it in June 2004 from here). Thanx in advance... again! lol

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    I purchased mine this late summer. I have read posts that say you can skip the first year of dormancy. I put mine under artificial light about a month ago and it is growing like crazy.

    Just took a pick the oyher day.


    My VFT has to hang out with the orchids.


    If I were you I would give it some extra light till spring.
    Stephen

    Forgot to mention the light its a 400w metalhalied.

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    What type of light setup do you have? I currently have my VFT in a terrarium under a typical room lamp with a 100 watt flourecent.

    Pj

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    I currently have my VFT in the lower pick you see above.
    We call it the porn shower because it is 8'x8'. Yes feet. It is in the bacement bathroom. I have moved all my orchids to the bacement to keep the 1.1 year old's hands off.I usually keep them in a portable in house green house in the house if you can understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (sdeering @ Dec. 05 2004,12:55)]I purchased mine this late summer. I have read posts that say you can skip the first year of dormancy. I put mine under artificial light about a month ago and it is growing like crazy.
    it has to be the PLANT's first year of dormancy!
    not the first year you have owned the plant! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]

    most VFT's bought from nurseries or garden centers are several years old.."adult" VFT's are at least 3 or 4 years old,
    and you CAN'T skip dormancy on them..
    that "skipping the first year of dormancy" thing only really applys to seedlings that sprouted less than a year ago..
    and those plants will be REALLY tiny..like leaves half an inch long..
    if you have a VFT of normal size, its an adult plant, several years old, and should not skip dormancy..

    Scot

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    I bought my VFT from **********.com in June of this year.. I have no idea how old it is, and I cant tell by the size of the leaves since my VFT dosnt recieved enough light as of late, therefore I believe the leaves have become small from that lack of light. IF I do have to out it into dormancy, how do I go about doing that? I still have the mushroom problem as well [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

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    Pj,
    keeping VFT's indoors in a terrarium is very problamatic when it comes to dormancy..
    because the plant gets none of the natural "cues" that its time to begin going dormant, like plants grown outdoors get..

    In August and September, the amount of daylight begins to shorten, and temps begin to fall..
    this "tells" plants that autumn is coming, and its time to begin preparing for dormancy..
    the plants begin to slow down, and begin to enter dormancy on their own gradually over several weeks/months...
    by October, the plants are usually fully dormant, and can just stay outside if your climate allows that, or they can go in the fridge if your winter climate is too warm or too cold..

    your VFT, being in a terrarium, has no clue that it was supposed to enter dormancy several months ago, because it got no natural light or temperature cues..
    so it isnt "ready" to go dormant..

    you have two options, risk shocking the plant by putting straight in the fridge..it might die.

    or..just let it continue growing through the winter and do nothing about dormancy..
    it will die eventually.

    neither option is ideal..if you put it in the fridge it *might* die..its a shock to put a plant into dormancy when it isnt ready for it.

    but..if you do nothing, it WILL die eventually if it gets no dormancy..but it could still last another year or two..
    so..the fridge dormancy has maybe a 50/50 chance of success..but if it works your plant will be better for it, and can live indefinately..
    doing nothing, giving no dormancy, has a 100% chance of death..but slowly over time.

    this is why im against growing CPs that require dormancy indoors, in terrariums..it simply doesent work when its time for dormancy..growing the plants outdoors is FAR better..

    here is the way I do Fridge dormancy:

    Fridge Method

    Scot

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    hey wait!
    you are in Florida!!
    you might be better off because of that..

    how cold are winters where you live?
    do temps fall into the 40's or 50's??
    but..do they also stay above freezing?
    if so, simply put your VFT outside and leave it there all winter!
    that might be more mild than the fridge, but also slow the plant down and give it a rest..
    what is your winter climate like where you live?
    what is your average day and night winter temps?
    that might be a good solution!

    Scot

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