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Thread: "doesn't need dormancy its first year"

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    Im concerned about all the people who believe tissue cultured VFT's dont need a dormancy their first year..
    where did this idea come from?
    is it actually true?

    ok, VFT *seedlings*..that sprouted from seed this past spring, and are only a few months old, can maybe get away with no dormancy their first winter..but who ever said TC plants can?
    I think somewhere along the line someone just *assumed* that TC plants wont need a dormancy, since they are "baby plants"..and now everyone is believeing it as a fact when there is nothing to support it..

    I fear it is likely a dangerous myth.
    and many first time VFT owners are not going to give their new VFT's a dormancy because they think its ok..
    (and it also gives people an excuse to be lazy..)
    But this could lead to unnecessary death of many plants!
    personally, I dont think its ok, and I think TC plants definately should get a dormancy..
    they are full-size, esentially "adult" plants biologically, created from adult VFT cells, even if they did just came out of TC... and besides, you dont really know how old a VFT is when you get it..

    thoughts?
    has anyone ever seen actual scientific data to support the idea that TC VFT's dont need a winter dormancy their first winter?
    or has everyone simply "heard it somewhere"?
    the internet is a very dangerous breeding ground for myths and disinformation...I think the CP forums may have created this myth in the last few years..

    Scot

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    It is a slight distortion to say that TC plants do not need a dormancy their first year. Plants from TC are still in prime active growth and are always like that under the TC conditions. If a plant from TC is purchased between the months of say October and March, when the plants should normally be dormant, then it is a better idea to let them continue active growth rather than trying to force dormancy. People just generalizing this statment is what gives rise to the "myth" though most of the time I have heard it said it has been along the lines of what I just said here
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    If you have a healthy vft it can skip a year and not start to dwindle.

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    Yeah, some people only give their vfts dormacy every other year with no ill effects, so it'll probably be the same for a T/C VFT. So I don't really believe it's a myth.
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    Yeah, some people only give their vfts dormacy every other year with no ill effects, so it'll probably be the same for a T/C VFT. So I don't really believe it's a myth IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (peter @ Dec. 07 2004,2:16)]Yeah, some people only give their vfts dormacy every other year with no ill effects, so it'll probably be the same for a T/C VFT. So I don't really believe it's a myth IMO
    they do?
    what people do that?
    who are "some people"?
    do you personally know these people?
    or is it again just "something I heard on the internet"?
    I have never heard of anyone doing that..
    and has anyone done that for say, a decade, with no ill effects?
    where is the data?
    so far, its all just made up..might be true, might not.
    just because you "heard something" doesent mean its even remotely true..
    "I heard" isnt good enough.

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    Ok- Dean Cook, Me, and more people that I can't recall of right now. I think they are in posts way back then that have been deleted.
    Sorry I did a double post...
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    well ok..I will accept something if there is good evidence! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]

    but...I see in your profile you are 17..
    honestly, how long have been doing this?
    how long have you been growing VFT's?
    have you done at least 2 full cycles of "every other year"?
    4 full years?
    and if so, the plants are still fine?
    or have you just started trying this?

    Scot

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