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    A couple of temperate hybrids

    P x apuana (P. vulgaris x P. mariae)

    A couple of temperate hybrids-apuana-jpg


    P. x (valisnerifolia x grandiflora)

    A couple of temperate hybrids-val-grand-jpg
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    I thought apuana was its own species...related to mariae and vulgaris, but...

    Beautiful flowers though. Been trying so hard to get temperates to grow well for me, but it's been a long time since I had anything flourishing enough to flower.
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    Bonjour

    actually P.apuana is a species apart .
    the fact that it's a hybrid is only a guess

    for me your P. x apuana is not one, the throat of the corolla has nothing to do with the typical form, just may be a P.vulgaris subsp vulgaris

    see here the real P.apuana http://fern72.free.fr/siteweb/donnee...ie/apuana.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff 2 View Post
    Bonjour

    actually P.apuana is a species apart .
    the fact that it's a hybrid is only a guess
    Or

    It's a hybrid and it's only a guess that it's a species.

    Taxonomy is like that, today's guess rules
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    I do not see on your photo a P.apuana ,sorry.

    there is no real proof that she is a hybrid , the taxonomy is not only based on pylogenetics but also on karyology, palinology, the study of seeds, etc. and of course on the morphological description .

    the pylogenetic is actually just the search for an ancestor .

    but can you have arguments,on the fact that it is a hybrid ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff 2 View Post

    but can you have arguments,on the fact that it is a hybrid ?
    I certainly can
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