Do not send

[Rball]

just to twist things up a bit ive recieve everything from nepenthes, cephs, pings, even helis all winter long with temps below zero......none have died. But then again i have a post office box so it was never left outside at a mail box. Just my experience.

[scottychaos]

The problem is that the post office often leave boxes on the trucks at night = dead plants. I will be mailing yours eou, and marking the box 'do not freeze' and then we will hope.

I highly doubt the post office will take any notice of "do not freeze" written on the package!
they arent going to give any special treatment for a package marked that way..it will just be ignored.

only option: just wait until temps are above freezing day and night, shouldn't be too much longer.

Scot

[amphirion]

a "ship-at-your-own-risk" policy should have been implemented. if the shipper feels that the weather is not favorable and the receiver INSISTS on receiving their package, the shipper should be free of the responsibility of the plants status upon arrival. i see that as fair...what isnt fair is if the plants arrive dead, and the shipper needs to replace them, EVEN THOUGH THEY STRONGLY ADVISED NOT TO SHIP IN THE FIRST PLACE.... :P

likewise, if a shipper ships, even though the receiver states that their weather is highly unfavorable, it would be the shipper's responsibility to replace that plant....

that being said, if some sort of freak accident occurs, nobody is at fault, and hopefully a nice resolution by understanding parties could work it out.

[scottychaos]

So check this out..
it just so happens, I have been monitoring the temperatures of packages in the US mail lately!
For work, I have been tracking the temps of photo paper placed in trucks and being shipped between Rochester, NY and Colorado..for the project, all we care about is the temp inside the truck..but the package, containing the temp sensor, is mailed back to me, so I also get the readings while the sensor was in the US mail..I pulled out just the data from when the package was in the mail, here is an example from a month ago:



That shows 4 days in the US mail.
scary..
each data point is 30 minutes apart.
the package went through four freeze-thaw cycles, some of them quite severe.
and an overall temp range between 75F and 9 below zero!

yeah..dont ship plants in the winter..

Scot

[adnedarn]

Now that's cool Scot! I've often thought about sending something to log that.. just to random locations lol neat to see, and yes- somewhat scary!
Andrew

[scottychaos]

a "ship-at-your-own-risk" policy should have been implemented. if the shipper feels that the weather is not favorable and the receiver INSISTS on receiving their package, the shipper should be free of the responsibility of the plants status upon arrival. i see that as fair...what isnt fair is if the plants arrive dead, and the shipper needs to replace them, EVEN THOUGH THEY STRONGLY ADVISED NOT TO SHIP IN THE FIRST PLACE.... :P.

Why would anyone want that? why would anyone insist it be shipped?
that makes no sense..you cant wait a few weeks to get a live plant?

If I was shipping CPs, and the receiver INSISTED, I would say "too bad, get over it, im not killing a plant because you are too impatient"..

actually, if someone insisted, I would refuse to ship to them, ever, and would withdraw the offer, because they obviously aren't a responsible CP owner and grower..

Scot

[Doomsday]

Nobody bite my head off, but it IS JUST A PLANT. Not an animal. It haas no feeling or emotion. Unless it is something that needs to be conserved if a buyer wants to wave his live plant guarantee for instant gratification I say let him do so. Less work for you. That said!!!!, I feel that the seller should make it very very clear that there is a danger involved, and not try to trick people in any way or mislead them.

[eou812]

I am very sorry, but temps are not making it into the 30's. I will add plants to your box to make up for the wait.

Highs in the thirtys will harm North American CPS?

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I'm with Doomsday.

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Well i guy i bought a plant from did it and the post office called me up saying they had it and it said do not freeze on it and it was fine IT HAD NOT BEEN FROZEN AND! IT WAS A NEPENTHES AND IT WAS FROM Or.