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You cannot eliminate all terrorists. There will always be terrorists and you can't stop that. How many times do I have to say this?
I never said ALL terrorists. Obviously we can't eliminate them all, DUH! But it only takes one to fly an airplane into a building, it only takes one to strap a nuke to their chest, it only takes one to release some kind of chemical agent....
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YOU DON'T NEED A LINK! It's a fact! Of course, that's if you believe all the right-wing 24-hour news channels, then it's a fact.
I thanked you for giving me the source from where you got your 52% from. You then turn around and slap me stating I shoud know this... If I DID know the statistic I wouldn't have ASKED you that question.
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Whatever that meant.
You were off 1%. IT'S A FACT!
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For one, if he manages to outlaw gay marriage and [insert apparently vulgar word that starts with "a" and ends with "bortion"] as well as whatever other horribly sinful things he's against, it's not going to help the nation at all. All it's going to do is cause people to get even more P.O.ed and find illegal ways do to it (especially in the case of [insert apparently vulgar word starting with
"a" and ending with "bortion"]... outlaw that and people will go back to dangerous, illegal methods to get it done.. ever heard of the wire coat hanger method?).
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You made the case that it won't help the nation at all. How will it help it? There has never been such a thing as gay marriage before. If people want to be gay that is their business, but they shouldn't be asking for marriage. Would it be safe to say that you are ok with gay couples adopting and raising an orphan? A.bortion has existed since the age of time, does that mean we should legalize it? No. What about all those potheads should we legalize marijuana? Should we legalize cocaine? Should we legalize theft and violent act? We need to set standards in this country, not lower standards because it PO the few and the immoral. There's a difference between attempting to enforce religious beliefs and moral beliefs. Morality is a seperate entity, and therefore there is nothing wrong with supporting it.
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When did I say I didn't have faith in Christ? I do. And I think the Bible is great. It's a great religious book. But nothing proves anything better than prophetic humans wrote it.
I never said anything about having faith in Christ. I said faith.
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If I'm wrong prove me wrong. Don't ask me a question. It's common knowledge those religions believe the bible is the word of God. If you can come up with a source that can backup your argument, then I'll stand corrected.
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When did I say I didn't have faith? Why the hell do you have to worship the Bible like it's God itself to have faith?
Ok let me get this straight. You have faith, you believe in Jesus Christ but you will not accept the bible as the word of God?
It is obvious you don't believe in the Bible based on your views of a.bortion and gay marriage but do you realize that you also do not believe in the same Jesus Christ that I believe in? The Bible was written by a human hand, but it was not written by human-being alone. If you believe it was, then the God you believe in and the Christ you have faith in is nothing but a fictional book. A fiction you don't take seriously in your heart.
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Doesn't matter how old I am. Find out for yourself, it's not that hard to find. My age isn't the question. The only reason you want to know is so you can automatically disregard everything I say only due to my age anyway.
Yes it does matter how old you are based on what I was stating. You were stating that Bush doesn't give tax cuts to the middle-class, and only to the rich. Well obviously you didn't get one entitled to "Flytrapgirl" because you are still living with your family. You kind of gave yourself away on the last sentence but there really is no reason to go there it is self evident in what you type.
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That's because there are too many level-headed people who won't pass it. If he could, he would.
Lets not go off on a tangent here, accept that you were wrong. Bush didn't pass any of those laws that you gave examples to, the question was not would he if he could.
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Therefore it doesn't even matter. If ridiculous laws get passed that help nobody, the Congress sucks for passing it and GWB sucks for signing it.
Therefore you go off on a tangent again and are wrong again. It does matter because if you can't understand simple concepts on how our gov't works then you shouldn't be claiming something when you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Prematurely? Why would it be premature?
Read the next sentence I wrote. The insurgents would take over Iraq without our support at this point of time. In the future when they are enough well trained Iraqi soldiers, they will be able to handle it themselves. This isn't the time.
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It's not that I don't care about the Iraqis... I do, really. But we never signed anything stating what happened in other countries was any of our business. They set up that kind of government, they can deal with it.
We didn't have to sign a contract, we went in there and freed them. Now we have to protect them until they are established and can handle it themselves. You honestly believe the Iraqi's setup that Gov't? You mean to tell me they liked living how they were under Saddam. You must be crazy and a crappy believer in Christ. What kind of person who believes in Christ would say, "oh well it is on them"? It doesn't matter really because it was already established that you have faith in a different Jesus Christ.
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Putting words into my mouth again. I did NOT say "ignore". I said STAY OUT OF. As in, DON'T throw the first punch. If they're not screwing with you, it's not your problem. Keep an eye on it, but don't jump right into war assuming the worst is going to happen if you don't. If they screw with you, fine. Fight it. War should NOT be a preventative action. It should be a DEFENSIVE action. If you use war as a preventative action, you might as well go to war with half the countries on the planet.
Stay out of ~= ignore. How else can you prevent a terrorist attack? I can tell you that it is not by leaving them alone in their terrorist cell camps. Once again you have nothing to support your view because there's nothing to support it.
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Nothing. Not until Bush was elected.
That just proves you are ignorant to what happens here:
In 1993, the first World Trade Center bombing killed six people.
In 1998, the bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa killed 224.
Both were the work of al-Qaida and bin Laden, who in 1998 declared holy war on America, making him arguably the most wanted man in the world.
In 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
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Oh, now we're getting technical with words.
Murder is also mentioned in the bible. There are laws against THAT and IT still happens. Just because some people still do it doesn't condemn us all to hell, now does it? So why do so many think medical procedure does?
You like to forget what you say don't you? I am not getting "technical" with words. You made the claim stating that gay marriage is in the Bible. Stick to your claim instead of worming around the fact you are wrong. There is nothing in the Bible about gay marriage. I never said anything about murder. What are you trying to prove? Your arguments are as stable as balsa wood supporting an elephant. Everyone knows all the laws that were ever made get broken, not matter if it is law or not. What does some people breaking the law have to do with "condeming us all to hell". First off breaking the law and your salvation have nothing to do with eachother. Secondly how can someone else do something that makes everyone condemned to hell? Why do so many people thin a.bortions are wrong? IT IS IMMORAL! YOU ARE KILLING LIFE, A LIVING HUMAN BEING! Put the religion aside, it is still wrong, it's called morals! You can never convince someone that it is moral to have a.bortions. Once again how can someone who believes in the Son of God believe in immoral things as a.bortions.
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I'm not even getting into a BS a.bortion debate again, but I will say this: if you believe it's wrong, then DON'T DO IT. I don't care if that's your belief. That's fine. Whatever. I'll accept that and respect it. But it's none of your business to try to force your beliefs onto others.
A BS a.bortion debate? There's no BS here. It is none of my business that someone is taking someone elses life? Well if you happen to be walking the city streets one night and get killed by a hangar I will remember your belief. I will accept and respect that that murderer had something against you and thought it would be best that you were killed. When people start saying how wrong it was for you to be killed I will tell them not to try to force their beliefs on me, and to mind their own business.
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What the hell? How did you get that out of what I said? I'm talking about the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Yeah, that's right... those sidenotes and afterthoughts over here. How about helping your own people once in a while? What did Bush do for the hurricane victims? Drone on and on about how much of a horrible trajedy it was.. sure. But sympathizing doesn't help anybody. WE did all the work. WE raised money for them. WE collected items for them. WE brought it to them. Not the government.
So wait your saying that the humanitarian effort to help the people out in New Orleans was soley non-government support? Our Gov't did nothing? You are seriously clueless.