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LAWD! LAWD!

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Pucker yer behinds guys! The Republican Radio Station is worried here! Seems 90% of the conservative right are now saying they would vote for HILLARY if she would deal with the borders of this country. Same folks are outraged over **** and George in the White House, and the most inept leadership they have ever seen. Honest guys, their words, not mine. THAT scares me. Almost as much as Bush the Inept in charge of anything. I have a lot of respect for my Republican friends out here. They are level headed, and search out the facts for themselves. And they are just plain angry at this administration for removing us so far from the Constitution, and driving the country into financial ruin, just like Bush did his businesses. I am glad the Republicans out here have there eyes open. The fact they would vote for Hillary though, SCARES THE CRAP OUTTA ME!!!!!! Is there something to be said for Independant Parties here??? Even a maybe??
 
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Quote[/b] ]The fact they would vote for Hillary though

... Isn't that one of the signs of the Apocalypse??
 
As in one of the four horseman??
 
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Quote[/b] (Bugweed @ Feb. 26 2006,4:57)]As in one of the four horseman??
Didn't they play for Notre Dame?

Notre Dame Magazine
Published Summer 1998

The Four Horsemen ride again, on a stamp
The U.S. Postal Service is spotlighting the legendary backfield from Notre Dame's 1924 football team on one of its new stamps commemorating the Roaring Twenties. The stamps, issued May 28, 1998, are part of the post office's continuing Celebrate the Century program.

The Four Horsemen were quarterback Harry Stuhldreher, fullback Elmer Layden and halfbacks Jim Crowley and Don Miller. They were immortalized by sports writer Grantland Rice in his account of the Notre Dame-Army game October 18, 1924, at the Polo Grounds in New York City, which began:

"Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore, they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden."

Former Notre Dame quarterback Joe Theismann, a 1971 graduate, spoke at a ceremony commemorating the stamp's issuance May 19 at the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend, Indiana. The last surviving Horseman, Crowley, died in 1986 at age 83.
 
I'm interested in seeing a woman/ minority in the White House... Only what I've heard of Hilary makes me think anything would be better than her.... but then again I haven't heard that much about her.  Would someone care to explain to me (without starting a pathetic political firestorm(!), please) what she stands for? Personally I'd like to see Colin Powell go for it... or Rice, but she seems to be a kind of Bush puppet... so I'm not sure.  I get to vote in the next election, so I want to get into the *possible* candidates.

EDIT: I realize this was a little off-topic, so sorry about that...
 
Not that far off, Cole. Thanks for your input.
 
I am not ready to break the seventh seal yet. I am having to much fun watching all the silliness going on.

Sincerely,
God

PS. As a divine being I have decided I am going to hang with the Atheists and Agnostics. At least they make sense.

PSS. I should have stopped with the dinosaurs
 
other than Hillary i havent heard much about potntial candidates. She scares me worse than Kerry did. Colieo, basically she is a nut case, my understanding is she has torqued off most of those in "her" state of NY. in all reality i dont expect to be terribly pleased with what ever candidate either major party comes up with. its getting to the point those who we need in office want no part of the idiocity that comes with trying to run for office now adays. can you think of many truely sane ppl willing to put up with that much prying into ther personal lives and past?
 
I don't like Hillary, but I liked her husband. I'm a registered Independent mainly because I'm not into the power struggle that the too major parties are in. I also don't agree with voting for something just because your party is voting for it. I will decide what I believe and not be told what to believe.
I like Powell, he's probably the only republican I'd vote for. Rice will almost as bad as Bush. I agree she's his little puppet.
 
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Personaly I think if you vote for Hillary your are a loon. That broad will say what she thinks you want to hear. I realize that most candidates do that, but with here its just blatinly more obvious than the others. She is playing the boarder card because she knows people do not think bush is doing the job well. I don't blame folks for thinking he is doing a poor job. Hell the darn whitehouse ws giving the contract for the port athorities to a UAE company. That was just plain STUPID!!!!!!! I do not think Hillary will be able to do any better anyhow. I would have to agree with BW here and say that Hillary for president is just to scary to think about. Regardless the candidate running against her I am pretty sure they will get my vote. Be it an independant or a republican I will not vote democrate. ESPECIALY if it is Hillary. Her moving to NY just to get ellected there was just plain WRONG she was an Arkansas native. Moving residence to NY just to get ellected is the crappiest loophole out there. I was flabergasted that the residents of NY elected her sorry arse to begin with. But hey thats NY for you.
 
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Now for my on-topic post: I really can say that I would not want to see Hilary as president. All of her actions that I've seen or heard of are exactly what people have been saying in here: whatever it takes to become popular.

I'm sick and tired of the BS in politics where people don't think for themselves. "So, how does your party dictate you feel about gays today, Joe?" You shouldn't be LOST if you haven't read the news to see how your party feels on an issue. Forget party loyalty- how about people loyalty? How about loyalty to yourself, at the very least! What kind self-respecting person can you be if you just listen and follow your party's will like that? If you happen to agree on all points, then great, but it always gets me seeing people zombies to their party.

Hilary seems to epitomize that in her political action. Not necsaarily following a party, but just going with whatever response to an issue will make her popular. She's the kind of person who feeds off of hot-topics to gain PR points. Instead of making level headed choices, we see the same BS over and over. I haven't seen her stand for anything except what the masses would like to hear. (This is my impression from what I've seen.)

Gotta admit, I haven't heard too much about potential candidates, though.
 
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Outside of all this, I see another major problem here. Just because WE are accepting women as equals, doesn't mean the rest of the world is. *China ?* and some other pretty powerfull places. What are these people going to think of us if we have a women leader? I dont' think it'd be good. I'm known to NOT get involved in these topics, but that's the one thing that came to my little pea brain at 3:53 am
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as far as a woman for Prez, i think it would be more of a US issue than a world issue. look at how many other western nations that have had women leaders. amoung those countries where their opinion actually counts, it wont be a huge deal unless its someone like Hillary. i would definatly vote for a woman for prez, but Hillary aint that woman
 
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Geena Davis for Prez!
 
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Independents need to start early ! I nominate Bugweed for Prez.! Let's follow that up with Ozzy for V.P. While we are at it how about rattler mt for Sec. of Defense. I nominate myself as head (and only) CP grower of the greater Kankakee area.
 
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If Bug gets president, I get VP and Rattler get Secretary of Defense, you can be sure of two things, NO MORE TERRIOST, and of course most of the cp sites will be off limits to development.
 
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VOTE FOR PAK!! If *I* were President, ALL CPs sites would be protected from development.
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A benevolent, environmentally aware dictatorship perhaps?
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...And as much as I see Mr. Bush and his cronies as a disaster waiting to happen (oh, wait...), I personally cannot see an America with Hilary atop the golden saddle, trying to keep a steady balance on the biggest horse in the world.

Cheers
Amori
 
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Anyone is better than the PNAC crew in charge now. Anybody.

However, as a lifelong liberal, I wouldn't be satisfied with Hillary. Now, the fact is that Hillary is SO reviled by the right, and her positions and records are so grievously distorted by the right that I'd like to see her win just to torque them all off. But the reality is that, among the Democrats, she is the most like the current administration. She supports the Iraq war, and has from the beginning. She supports the Patriot Act. Her positions are centrist at best, so there's a certain irony in the right wing focusing their hatred upon her. I think they're still sore that Hubby Clinton was President (very successfully at that), for eight years.

Capslock (Russ Feingold for President!!!)
 
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Hilary is NOT an Arkansas native, she is an Illinois native.  Park Ridge.

And since when did the Senate rules require that you must be a native of the state you represent? I must have slept through the addition of that amendment to the Constitution.

Seriously, you guys p*ss and moan about Hilary when she acts/does no darn differently than many, many male politicians.  How is she worse than them? Is she more cynical than say...Tom DeLay? Ted Kennedy? More power mad than Carl Rove? Have a worse temper than John McCain?

The thing that makes you guys angry is that she is a political animal of the first water. And you CAN'T STAND IT when a woman can play the same game along with the big boys.

"All of her actions that I've seen or heard of are exactly what people have been saying in here: whatever it takes to become popular."

Can you show me a sucessful male politician(meaning, one who has held office) who doesn't live by these words? Good lord, that's funny.

Anyone here old enough to remember what happened to the last presidential candidate who dared speak the truth to the masses?  His name was Walter Mondale, and he said he would raise taxes.

China would accept a female leader just fine.  One of the many basic tenets of socialism/communism is that men and women are equals.  I think some Islamist countries (and ours) would have a problem with a female president.

And quite frankly, I don't know a single person, republican, democrat or independent, that checks with their party to see how they themselves should feel about the issues.

If the progressive movement would give me a viable liberal presidential candidate to vote for, I would vote for him/her. Until such a time, I will continue to work and vote for the most progressive Democratic Party candidates, locally and nationally.
 
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