A couple of sucker-punch I.E.D.'s and crazy-Suicide Bombers a day does Not make it that our military is getting their "butt-whooped" look at the operation of Fallujah and tell me that the US Military got their "butt-whooped" there.[b said:Quote[/b] (mabudon @ Dec. 13 2006,1:07)]With the current butt-whipping the insurgents in Iraq are laying on the US military, that option was taken off the table.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]While the world waits for Iran to do something really stupid, the US has done one stupid thing after another. Anyway, Iran's leader denies the holocaust happened and ours denies global warmiing is happening. It's a draw.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]Iran also is saying it's Nuclear program is for "peaceful purposes" and are purposely manipulating the negotiations to their favor to buy time until they say "surprise, look what we got" and promptly give one to Hezzbullah to nuke Israel and to smuggle one into the US and maybe Europe by way of some unknown Terrorist group to wait for the signal.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]I was overexaggerating about the trees. I just think it's funny that everything is the cause of Global Warming. Just like everything is the cause of cancer.
[b said:Quote[/b] ] If they wanted the power thenthey shouldn't have a problem with the UN running it. Or build them a reactor that uses something else for the reaction that has no waist left.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]The sad thing is that I have operated on a lady in her 30's or 40's who never smoke drank or did anything to cause cancer. We had to operate on her for lung, liver and stomach cancer. So hell you only live once. If you don;t do any of those things you still could end up with cancer and die.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]Pootin is becoming more and more like a dictator himself. It is scary.
No but it shows a strong ability to ignore basic facts that are inconvenient to their soapboxes. If they can do it here, they can do it again.[b said:Quote[/b] ]Denying the holocoucst should have absolutly no bearing on if we talk with a country or not
[b said:Quote[/b] ]I'm starting to hate everyone (no... not the jews.. they rock...) Im starting not to care. It's all I ever hear. Then again no one makes me watch CNN.
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How do we know how willing Iran is to give a little if we wont even talk with them. Remember we are the ones who refuse to talk to them not the other way around. Last time i checked we didnt send requests for talks to Iran and have theme refuse them.
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I agree nuclear weapons are the worst invention humans ever came up with, next to agriculture. But what has been unleashed on the world can not be undone. Maybe if we would actully sit down and talk with Iran they would suspend their nuclear program, however everytime the worlds discusses it they seem to forget to send an invitation to Iran. Wouldnt it help if we could talk with them. Talking in this manner does not cause millions of deaths, not doing so could.
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We have a bad enough relationship with the Arab world due to our support of Isreal, we need to talk with them and reach some understanding, unless you believe we should continue our presidents "cursade" against the Arabs/Muslims which ever group it is that he seems to hate. It as simple as this dialog can lead to understanding for both sides, understanding often times leads to conflict resoultion that is fair for both sides with out tons of bombs being droped everywhere. Basically its like we are having a shouting match between the two leaders in a crowded room so no one is getting a good understanding of the other so problems arise. We need to meet in the middle and discuss the problem.
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Also someone mentioned that Iran wouldnt allow the UN to inspect its plants, well at first it agree to weapons inspectors in its enrichment facilities but our brilliant president said no that wasnt enough and so Iran decided fine we wont let them in since its going to make no difference to the idiot running America. So basically this problem is all George W.'s fault for trying to run the world like the little dictator he wants to be.
You are of course, entitled to your opinion. However, I would love to see you say that, face to face, to some of our troops over there. Talk about a butt-wuppin'.[b said:Quote[/b] ]With the current butt-whipping the insurgents in Iraq are laying on the US military, that option was taken off the table.
The Baker report is not the final answer but rather an outside opinion. You know about opinions...[b said:Quote[/b] (mabudon @ Dec. 15 2006,10:13)]Re-read the whole post man, the part about not wanting my friends in service of the US military dying for nothing- just the smug pride with which my beating was assured by the previous poster really got my goat, the servicemen I know are all totally solid folks and I imagine most of the rest of them are the same, never meant to imply anything, just highlighting how some citizens would like to see other citizens injured by the US military for thinking Iraq is a lost cause which is pretty much what the Baker Report said in a nutshell, why don't the troops start by beating up James Baker for telling the truth??
See, it's ridiculous, that was all I was sayin
No, could you explain?[b said:Quote[/b] (Outsiders71 @ Dec. 15 2006,10:35)]The Baker report is not the final answer but rather an outside opinion. You know about opinions...
First how are you defining terrorists? Last time I checked all of the people who have attacked america in terrorist acts were from countries other than Iran. If you are defining it as groups like Hamas, well I consider them people trying to liberate their country, unless of course you considered the french resistance in WWII a terrorists group, in which case I may agree with you.[b said:Quote[/b] (Outsiders71 @ Dec. 15 2006,4:23)][b said:Quote[/b] ]
How do we know how willing Iran is to give a little if we wont even talk with them. Remember we are the ones who refuse to talk to them not the other way around. Last time i checked we didnt send requests for talks to Iran and have theme refuse them.
Why should we appease and make deals with terrorists?
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I agree nuclear weapons are the worst invention humans ever came up with, next to agriculture. But what has been unleashed on the world can not be undone. Maybe if we would actully sit down and talk with Iran they would suspend their nuclear program, however everytime the worlds discusses it they seem to forget to send an invitation to Iran. Wouldnt it help if we could talk with them. Talking in this manner does not cause millions of deaths, not doing so could.
Your naive in believing they will stop their nuclear program. They have already made clear statements that they will not be bullied and believe it is their right to nuclear technology. Also do you believe it is in the best interests of Iran if Iraq becomes a free democracy that supports anti-terrorism?
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We have a bad enough relationship with the Arab world due to our support of Isreal, we need to talk with them and reach some understanding, unless you believe we should continue our presidents "cursade" against the Arabs/Muslims which ever group it is that he seems to hate. It as simple as this dialog can lead to understanding for both sides, understanding often times leads to conflict resoultion that is fair for both sides with out tons of bombs being droped everywhere. Basically its like we are having a shouting match between the two leaders in a crowded room so no one is getting a good understanding of the other so problems arise. We need to meet in the middle and discuss the problem.
Why is it that the Arab world hates us for supporting Israel? Because we believe Israel has the right to exist? Our President is on a crusade against all Muslims because he has hatred for them? That is just wrong. The enemies we fight are Islamofascists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism
It is just distasteful to the peaceful Muslim majority to claim they are the problem and our president hates them!
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Also someone mentioned that Iran wouldnt allow the UN to inspect its plants, well at first it agree to weapons inspectors in its enrichment facilities but our brilliant president said no that wasnt enough and so Iran decided fine we wont let them in since its going to make no difference to the idiot running America. So basically this problem is all George W.'s fault for trying to run the world like the little dictator he wants to be.
.....I'm sorry but you can't just open shop and create nuclear materials. Iran clearly knows they have violated international law and to this day continue enrichment. Our wonderful dictator is just doing his job trying to prevent crazy maniacs such as the President of Iran from hand delivering nuclear bombs to Hezbollah! Are you that eager to see Israel perish?