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CP Rescue

Ozzy

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I just want to let everybody know that tomorrow I am going to look at a site that a house is schedualed for construction to begin in mid January. The land owner has told me that he has S.flavas and there could be other cp's on the land. He has already agreed to cooperte with NASC to save any plants that may be in danger.

From talking to him he seems to want to keep at least some plants in the property. He also has told me to take whatever I want. So I don't know for sure what his true intentions are, but after I told him what we do he said that it seems exciting and he would love to be involved. When he told me to take whatever I want, I explaind to him that is not what we do. I explianed that we are only interested in taking plants if they are to be destroyed. I told him when I look at his land I would decide if they are in danger. If possiabe I would like to work with him to keep the plants where they are or move them to another location on his property. From looking at a satelitle photo I don't think they will survive in any location but where they are.

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The property is boadered by a lake. If you look at the pic, you'll see a green patch next to the lake. That is where I think the flavas are. The rest of the land looks to be very dry and sandy. If I'm right, the only area for them to grow is by the lake. The house is going to be built in the white sandy area, not where the flavas are growing. So I am very unsure of if the plants will be safe where they are or not.

If they will be able to stay where they are and we don't need a rescue, the land owner has agreed for us to take a sample.


I'll post an update tomorrow when I get home.
 
I'm so happy he's not some crotchety old man with a shotgun. I'm really glad he's all for helping.

Hope they will be ok
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They are so beautiful. Really they are. Wish everyone could see them like we do.
 
Could there be some very unhappy dews in the sandy area like D. brevifolia or something?

-Ben
 
I'm hoping that there are other sarrs, dews and maybe even pings and vft's there. I'll find out tomorrow.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]I'm so happy he's not some crotchety old man with a shotgun.

Well, if the plants will be safe where they are, then maybe we should hope he IS a crothety old man with a shotgun!
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No poachers for sure!
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AWWW Boiling Springs.
Brings back fond memories of seeing VFT, S pupurea, S. rubra and S. flava in somewhat of their natural setting also D. intermedia D ? brevifolia and U/ gibba it was yellow and in the water. if you call a 4 ft deep drainage ditch natural
Lois
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]I told him when I look at his land I would decide if they are in danger
Can you do that accuratly without knowing exactly where the houses are going? I mean, really close to the water by the white sandy area, and such, with the rest lawn?

I think it would be best to encourage the landowner to leave a strip of native riparian vegetation to protect water quality and native habitat (plus to prevent erosion), how wide determined by how extensive the cp's are. Make it clear that means no lawns right up to the waters edge. There is a good amount of literature on how this is beneficial; so I wont go into it here.

[b said:
Quote[/b] ]I'm so happy he's not some crotchety old man with a shotgun. I'm really glad he's all for helping.
yes ozzy might be a decent guy after all
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Well, I would still suggest getting the plants out of the area if there is to be a construction crew present. They have to have space to lay building materials and equipment. That means any are the house is not going. Even if the house is to be built in the sandy area the grassy area might not be safe from the contracters, but I duno maybe a fence would help. I hope there is some CPs there and they can be protected.
 
Wild plants should not be moved just because there is a potential of a construction crew to be present, because there is a big chance of removing them for nothing. We should be 100% certain before we do the drastic act of moving them. Protecting them in the habitat should be the first priority
 
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I agree 100% finch.
 
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It might be a good idea to stake off the land where the cps are so that the construction crew knows to stay out of there when they build the house.

Capslock
 
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The land owner can also tell the contractor that he doesn't want certain areas to have traffic of any kind or be used for mateials storage. Most contractors work with you on that kind of thing. Checing up on them occasionally helps keep them honest, too.
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Ozzy, did ya see any plants??!?1

-Ben
 
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Oh yes.

I am flying out of town tomorrow and I don't have time to tell the whole story. I'll try to get some pics up. If I have time while I'm out of town, I'll try to write up what I saw.


As I was looking for the property, I saw three of four turtles sitting on a log. I pulled off the road and jumped out hoping that I will be able to get a pic. As I was walking up, I heard them jumping into the water. I thought I was too late but as I looked through the trees, I saw that one was still there. I got as close as I could and took this pic.
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This is the view of the property from te road. You can see how the land slopes toward the lake.
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This is the area that has the cp's Sarracenia flava var. rubricorpora commonly called "All Red"
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This is what I'm almost sure is S.flava's. This plant and others on the property shows signs of being
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There were a lot of flowers here, most of them were full of seeds.
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There were cp's along the whole lake front. Although they were concentrated on both ends.
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Glad to see they aren't going to be destroyed.
 
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If you look at one of these pitchers you'll see that the tube apears to be "All Red" I guess we'll have to wait until the spring to find out exactly what we have.
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More tubes that appear to be "All Red"
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I put my camera up and I went back to do the final deed of collecting a few seeds. I went to an area where I had seen a really big mound of S.flava to see if the flowers there had any seeds. Most had already fallen out of the flower. I started walking back to my van and I saw a trail that I hadn't walked down. I had been on the property for about two hours and I was more than ready to leave. I almost decided to leave, but I finally decided to take a quick walk down the trail. Sitting right in the middle of the trail was this impressive mound of S.purpurea.
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There were about 5 or 6 hybrids between S.purpurea and S.flava.

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There were a lot of blueberry bushes growing along with the cp's
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I couldn't search every square inch so it's very possiable that I missed some plants. If I can I'll return in the spring when it's much easier to spot plants.


I know that you've been wondering what the following pics are.
Well the lake in the picture is one of the lakes that make up a series of lakes called Boiling Spring Lakes. Boiling Spring Lake is also known for the cp's that grows around them. There are a total of about 50 lakes in the area. The lakes are formed becauses of a single spring.

In 1961, the developers of Boiling Spring Lakes happened upon a gushing spring concealed in a wooded ravine. Wishing to beautify the area, a 4-foot high brick wall was built to encompass this natural phenomenon. Almost before the masons had completed their work, the spring suddenly stopped running. Within a few hours, it burst out in a free full flow some 15 feet outside the wall. When the 3-foot wall enclosing the spring was built, the weight of the water in the enclosed area resulted in a backpressure against the spring so it moved to an easier release point. Over time the wall broke allowing the impounded water to flow. With a lower water level in this area, the spring returned to its former location, and it boils today.

The spring with what remains of the brick wall.
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It's hard to belive that 43 milion gallons of water is produced by this spring per day. The naive Indians belived that whoever drank from the spring will return to the spring. Before I left. I insured that I will return to the area. It was the best water I have ever tasted. The taste of the water stayed in my mouth for hours.
 
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