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    That "Archaic Book" is the same one You quote in Your signature--Yeah, the sig that goes on every post of Yours: regardless of topic. Such "Apprehension".

    Many of Your Posts in this thread reference that "Archaic Book" and the "Belief System" that comes from it.

    If You:

    don't need to read an archaic book
    then why are You such a Proponent of it?

    You are looking very Foolish.....but that's what happens when You choose not to accept reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naja02 View Post
    I haven't been around here in a while, but:

    What's with all the christian hoopla?

    The bible tells You the truth:

    John 4:22--"Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews."

    If You are not a Jew--then You don't get Salvation. Period. If You are a Jew--then You reject Jesus as the "Messiah". What's so difficult?
    Or...perhaps you misread and misinterpreted the verse all together?

    "is of the Jews" != If you are not a Jew you don't get Salvation.

    Since the KJV is giving you problems try the NIV, oh and also here's some context:

    John 4:4-26

    4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob's well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about the sixth hour. 7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, "Will you give me a drink?" 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, "You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?" (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water." 11 "Sir," the woman said, "you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds?" 13 Jesus answered, "Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life." 15 The woman said to him, "Sir, give me this water so that I won't get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water." 16 He told her, "Go, call your husband and come back." 17 "I have no husband," she replied. Jesus said to her, "You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true." 19 "Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem." 21 Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." 25 The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us." 26 Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."

    It is quite clear what Jesus is saying and it is not that Jews only receive salvation.
    James 1:17

    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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    If you will READ my signature, you'll see it is a PARODY against a conservative. It's called a joke. Do you understand this? Dr. Laura is a horrible person and a religious conservative who does something "forbidden" in the Bible. That is what's funny. Are you assuming I believe that just because it's my signature? That too, is laughable. You need to learn how to recognize SARCASM. I didn't even write the joke, I found it online.

    I am NOT a proponent of the Bible. I don't even READ it. In the past year, I think I've picked it up once. Where the hell are you getting this stuff at? No where am I a proponent of the bible or a proponent of any one religion. You are the one who looks foolish. Anyone here can tell you I'm very liberal and don't care what anyone believes. I support all religions equally and think all organized religions are equally bad.

    Are you starting to pull things out of a magic hat?

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    Right, and if You compare the NIV, Good News, etc,etc, etc to the KJV--You will find many nifty little "corrections".

    Pick and chose the bible that suits You. Or--do Your homework and realize that with the onslaught of "technology" and information has come the ability to pick the bible apart.

    Do Your homework and compare the various versions---they don't match up.

    Is this, once again, the christian God trying to fix more mistakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by naja02 View Post
    Right, and if You compare the NIV, Good News, etc,etc, etc to the KJV--You will find many nifty little "corrections".

    Pick and chose the bible that suits You. Or--do Your homework and realize that with the onslaught of "technology" and information has come the ability to pick the bible apart.

    Do Your homework and compare the various versions---they don't match up.

    Is this, once again, the christian God trying to fix more mistakes?
    You obviously don't understand the language of the KJV. Both the KJV and the NIV are saying the exact same thing.

    is of the Jews
    is from the Jews

    The rest of your rambling attacks are just as much nonsense as your last post. You have made it clear that you don't know what you are talking about, why not take your own advice and quit making yourself look foolish?
    James 1:17

    "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows."

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    Quoting You again:

    Excuse me, but my understanding is that you receive salvation through faith and belief in Christ as your personal savior. I do, and..... what's your problem with that again?
    Emphasis added.

    Link:

    http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=12

    Pretty hard to figure out which side of Your mouth You want to talk out of when You just make it up as You go along.....

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    Because in the context of the argument I believe we were debating how faith alone is or is not all you need. I was talking to a Christian with a different viewpoint than mine about a religious topic, and I was speaking personally. Nowhere do I tell anyone to become a christian, a jew, a hindu, satanist or a wiccan. Nowhere do I tell people to read any book. I don't care what anyone else believes and I'd never try to persuade them otherwise.

    You can take my words out of context all you like and make me look like a republican if you want. It's nice of you to show up after a long absence and start talking like you know me. The regulars here know me and it's clear that you're pulling these statements out of thin air. You look childish and uneducated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsiders71 View Post
    You obviously don't understand the language of the KJV. Both the KJV and the NIV are saying the exact same thing.

    is of the Jews
    is from the Jews

    The rest of your rambling attacks are just as much nonsense as your last post. You have made it clear that you don't know what you are talking about, why not take your own advice and quit making yourself look foolish?
    Finish Your homework. There are many "corrections" between the versions.

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