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    Quote Originally Posted by PlantAKiss View Post
    Personally I have been apalled by how much ALL the candidates have been waving the God flag for this election. I have nothing against religion and a candidate having faith in whatever they choose, but I strongly believe in the separation of Church and State and don't wany ANY candidate dragging their religious beliefs into their governing. And I feel the more religiously zealous a candidate is, the more they will be unable to keep their personal beliefs out of their political decisions.

    The entire anti-abortion issue is religion based...not based on an individual's right to make medical decisions for themselves and their unique situations. I don't want government mandating what I can do with MY own body.
    lol. Once again, PAK coming in late and resurrecting a thread that was pretty much dead. Here we go again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    No. Until a fetus can pop out and survive on its own (i.e. not hooked up to a bunch of tubes and whathaveyou), all it is is a parasite.
    Oh great...we're going to call a developing baby a parasite now.

    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    Stupid. 1 cell (egg) that has been infiltrated by a piece of DNA with a propeller on it is not life (I realize that technically it is, but you know). End of story.
    How is it not life? If you were not to kill it, it would fully develop into a person such as yourself...

    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    Squashing an undifferentiated ball of cells is not murder any more than skinning your knee is. Its so hard to argue scientific stuff with religious people that don't understand the first thing about it.
    The skin cells of your knee don't develop into a living person...that ball of cells does develop into a living person. Excuse me? I don't know anything about it? You seriously have issues if you believe scraping your knee is the equivalent to an abortion. If abortions are no big deal, then why do people go through with them? The reason people seek an abortion is because they want to prevent a life from living and that's the end of the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    Because religious people (ESPECIALLY catholics) are more or less the only ones that subscribe to the "life begins at conception" horsehockey.
    Aren't you the one who has a degree in Biology...? I'm still waiting for the name of that community college you went to. Life starts at conception, there is no refuting that.

    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    And to what Outsiders said last page that Mokele responded to: no reputable historians talk about Jesus. The ones that were were well known and very thorough in the area at the time (i.e. they would've know about anything of interest he did, especially the "miracles"), either didn't mention him, or just said that he existed with no more than a sentence or two. The one historian that gave a descriptive account of Jesus (can't remember his name) - that document was proven a forgery hundreds of years ago, and every prominent historian since then that has studied it says it was fake. Apparently jesus either didn't exist, or wasn't that much of a bad$#%. Though what I just said is documented fact and cannot be refuted, I'm sure you'll find some nonsensical tangent on it and attempt to discredit hundreds of prominent historians since you "know" better....
    You can twist things to serve your agendas all you want. However there is ample historical evidence, that Jesus did indeed live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattler_mt View Post
    abortion is one of those topics..........there is no way i could do it.....had a scare when i was young and dumb yet i came to the conclusion of regardless of weither the gal was interested in being a mother or not i wanted the kid, it was my duty to see it through.....an abortion caused by a mistake of MY OWN was not acceptable. however i dont believe i should say what someone i dont know should do so as far as im concerned abortion should be legal......im not one to force my beliefs on another person. as ive said before im concerned about me and my own and what someone else does is not my concern nor do i have a right to regulate it.
    I'm interested in your beliefs rattler. Since you don't say the reason you felt this way was God, why did you think it was wrong to go through with an abortion? Why don't you believe it is just like scraping your knee and killing a few cells?
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    personal beliefs...............nothing else. owning up to responsibility....physiologically speaking i believe abortion in the first trimester isnt much different than scraping your knee ect. however ive got my own sense of duty to what i personally believe is right. however i dont believe i can forsee all circumstances, or know everyones personal situation so i dont believe it should be illegal. however i also say you cant force a doc who doesnt believe in it to do it.....
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    Since you don't say the reason you felt this way was God, why did you think it was wrong to go through with an abortion? Why don't you believe it is just like scraping your knee and killing a few cells?
    physiologically speaking i believe abortion in the first trimester isnt much different than scraping your knee ect
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    Quote Originally Posted by phissionkorps View Post
    Ohhhhhh! Tried to shut me down and got BURNED! That's what happens when you mess with the best
    read this through several times and cant figure out WTF your talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattler_mt View Post
    read this through several times and cant figure out WTF your talking about
    I believe he was trying to say that because you believe scraping your knee is equivalent to an abortion, that I've been burned. Yeah something like that...
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    where i get lost is the idiot was arguing with you not me? because i more or less agree with him it burns you? WFT?
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