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Barack Wins

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  • #41
Agreed...sort of. I mean yeah I agree he's horrible, but I'm sure there could be worse. What about David Duke?

lol Oh come on! I didn't mean that literally. OK...Charles Manson would make a worse president. lol Then again....... ???

I like Obama and all, but somehow I think he may have trouble winning. I don't know...<!-- / message -->

Obama won't have trouble if everybody supports him. :)

There isn't anyone who can run for Pres that will be PERFECT. I don't agree with all of Obama's platform. But...I think we DO need someone with a fresh, maybe even naive, point of view. Someone who is not so jaded by politics that they've lost sight of being there to help the people of this country...not big business. We are losing jobs by the thousands to cheap foreign labor and that makes us more and more dependent on other countries.

Manufacturing used to be the backbone of our country. Now its all in China, Mexico or India.

Does anyone here remember when Wal-Mart first got to be "big" and their slogan was "Made in the USA!"? That quietly faded away...because nothing in Wal-mart is made in the USA!
 
  • #42
Hillary rolled over for George W. Bush every single time back when resistance would have mattered most. She's a neocon, corporate schill and only fights when it's all about her, not when she'd be taking a risk fighting for someone or something else. Good riddance Hillary and I sincerely hope I never again see the names Clinton or Bush on a ballot.
 
  • #43
Off topic, but you know Walmart got forced out of Germany? Lol.
Apparently Germans didn't like the door greeters or the giant carts. Also, they were mad that Walmart didn't allow flirting in the workplace (seriously).
They lost a ton of money on the whole ordeal.
 
  • #44
I wouldn't call her a neocon at all.

What do you suggest, Susanne? People will buy cheap crap from other countries until America starts to make it just as cheap, and the people in America aren't going to work for ten cents an hour.

Hell, even a lot of expensive crap is made in other countries, at far less than anyone here would make it for.
 
  • #45
I'm pleased with the way it turned out.

Apparently Germans didn't like the door greeters or the giant carts.

LMAO! Maybe I'm part German after all...

xvart.
 
  • #46
But...I think we DO need someone with a fresh, maybe even naive, point of view. Someone who is not so jaded by politics that they've lost sight of being there to help the people of this country...not big business. We are losing jobs by the thousands to cheap foreign labor and that makes us more and more dependent on other countries.

Meh. I think it would be naive to think that Obama isn't jaded by politics, I mean after all he has came from the machine driven and corrupted Chicago. He's as much as a politician as any other politician. The biggest drawback of Obama, IMO, is the change he has planned for us, in regards to taxation and big government programs. I don't want the government telling me how to spend my hard earned money.

Manufacturing used to be the backbone of our country. Now its all in China, Mexico or India.

Manufacturing will never be the same. We can't compete with China who pays their employees literally dirt for the hard work they do. The only thing we can do is give incentives and reward American companies who stay on American soils. To those that leave in search of cheap labor and more profits, we should add an import tax that would make their products as much as stuff made here in the U.S. Our biggest problem though is energy, and until this country is energy independent from oil we will continue to plummet. France is about 80% energy independent by the use of Nuclear power, something I'm for, but once again Obama isn't.
 
  • #47
I like Obama much more than Billary, and all she's doing at this point is wasting money. However, I am really sick of "word to yo momma" and am not looking forward to hearing it through November. If he can't even have a slogan that uses proper English, I think that says a lot about him as a potential president. That, plus that whole "dirt off your shoulders" thing he did actually made me feel embarrassed for him, and I think those two things w/ some of the others he/his supporters have done (mostly hooping and hollering with little, if any, regard for anywhere near proper English) go a long way to show where the country will go if he gets elected - in the crapper. It makes him look horribly unfit for the position.
How can you possibly like Hillary Clinton any less then that?:-))
I don't think Obama will have any trouble winning. I mean, this whole time a lot of people who claim to dislike Obama are really just hardcore Clinton supporters. Obama is gennerally better with independants/undecided than Clinton, and much better than McCain. But then with the last 8 years with a dope for president, running as a republican is very hard.
Clinton was a senator and a very politically active first lady who really "knew her way around the white house," to use an oft quoted term. Plus the fact that she would be our first female president makes tons of people more inclined to vote for her. It shouldn't be to hard for Obama to beat McCain if he could beat Clinton. Though of course I'm sortof keeping my fingers crossed, there is no way I nor anyone else can know for sure.
I think Hillary is a great senator with a lot of passion for her work, and with a lot of good ideas for this country. I don't think its a good idea to have a president who claims that she was fired at in Bosnia just to make a good story or claim that she has popular vote by discluding caucus states and including states where Obama wasn't even on the ballott.
Anyway, its over now and I don't have to worry.
I still think she would make a good vice president. Why? Because 1) it would say a lot about our party. After the past months of squabbling among democrats, it would be fantastic if they could come together--very symbollic. 2) Logistically, the Dems would have a lot more votes, especially with McCain telling Clinton supporters to "join him." 3) Clinton could get her first truth/lie lessons. hehe just joking or mabye not.
 
  • #48
Sorry I have not read the thread and don't plan to either. I used to like Obama till he showed his true colors to me. I will be voting McCain. Don't even get me started on Hillary. Granted Bush didn't turn out like I wanted either, but I am not going to put my trust in Obama right now either.
 
  • #49
To you? Care to elaborate?
 
  • #50
as for ppl voting for Clinton cause she is a woman.....if thats how you choose a president you scare me.....if you want to vote for Obama cause he is a minority you scare me.......Obama bugs the hell out of me cause most of his votes in the senate arent "yay" or "nay" they are "Present" which means he wanted them to note he was there but didnt want to vote on the issue.....i have no freaking clue what he stands for but change.......why Kerry bugged the hell out of me the last election is cause he voted every way on everything except gun control.....so while i knew he was for gun control on everything else you couldnt go by his voting record cause he was for and against everything....

i have no problem voting for a minority....throw Colin Powell or Bill Cosby up there ill vote for him

want me to vote for a women? get Sarah Palin to run ill vote for her in a heart beat.....but voting for Obama and Clinton because of what they are instead of what they have proven they stand for is BS.....we arent voting for the newest American Idol winner........
 
  • #51
Clinton was a senator and a very politically active first lady who really "knew her way around the white house,"
LOL! Remember those commercials she had that featured her answering the red phone? What a joke. The whole time she was first lady, she never had national security clearance. Maybe she was traumatized by all the sniper fire she had to dodge :-))

She would make an awful president. Why? 1) She's a robot. 2) She's on the border between socialism and communism. 3) (and this is shared w/ Obama)...I really hate the "cradle to grave" way they think about the government. It's time for America to collectively grow a pair and take care of ourselves, instead of expecting and especially wanting the government to do everything for each and every one of us.

I'm not really looking forward to any of the candidates, but the dems scare me. I work too damn hard for my money, and they are both HARDCORE tax and spenders. In fact, they care so much about the poor/downtrodden/disadvantaged, that they're willing to give them the shirt off your back. That doesn't sit well w/ me. If I had to pick one of the main 3, I'd vote for McCain. I'm not particularly a fan, and it might turn out like another 4 years of Bush, but at least I'm not working and struggling just to pay for some junkie to get his fix.
 
  • #52
It's time for America to collectively grow a pair and take care of ourselves, instead of expecting and especially wanting the government to do everything for each and every one of us.

have to say.......i like your line of thinking............
 
  • #53
as for ppl voting for Clinton cause she is a woman.....if thats how you choose a president you scare me.....if you want to vote for Obama cause he is a minority you scare me.......Obama bugs the hell out of me cause most of his votes in the senate arent "yay" or "nay" they are "Present" which means he wanted them to note he was there but didnt want to vote on the issue.....i have no freaking clue what he stands for but change.......why Kerry bugged the hell out of me the last election is cause he voted every way on everything except gun control.....so while i knew he was for gun control on everything else you couldnt go by his voting record cause he was for and against everything....

i have no problem voting for a minority....throw Colin Powell or Bill Cosby up there ill vote for him

want me to vote for a women? get Sarah Palin to run ill vote for her in a heart beat.....but voting for Obama and Clinton because of what they are instead of what they have proven they stand for is BS.....we arent voting for the newest American Idol winner........
Are you respodning to me?
I didn't say that if I voted, I'd vote/not vote for her becuase she's a woman. I said that people do. People also vote/don't vote for Obama because of his color. Did anyone else hear about how in some state (Kentucky I think) one 1 out of every 12 people decided their canidate based on race?
I don't think you're responding to me...'you' is confusing gramatically....we need a new pronoun to seperate the 2nd person pronoun from the generally term meaning you as in 'someone.' :-D Sorry if that doesn't make any sense.
 
  • #54
Hillary is nowhere near the border between socialism and communism. I doubt any serious US candidate has been in that area since the 1920s and Hillary is a reliable parrot for the corporate economic agenda. She is fairly liberal socially, since her corporate sponsors couldn't care less about abortion, etc.
 
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