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People look for oncoming vehicles before crossing the street. People who take medication count the number of pills they take. When people who are driving come to a red light, they stop. It’s all because they want to reduce risk and avoid unnecessary danger. People do it all the time during a normal day. Those who don’t do it become victims of evolution.

Yet gun advocates insist that people do NOT try to try to reduce risk and avoid unnecessary danger. They make this argument in the hopes of justifying their position on guns. However, any conclusion based on a false premise is weak.

Gun advocates may continue to insist that people do not try to reduce risk and avoid unnecessary danger. That would only show how weak their argument is.
 
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People look for oncoming vehicles before crossing the street. People who take medication count the number of pills they take. When people who are driving come to a red light, they stop.
For any of those, not always (or often). If you sat at a crosswalk and counted how many people were crossing the street, you'd be surprised how many people don't look both ways, or sometimes any way before crossing.

It’s all because they want to reduce risk and avoid unnecessary danger.
No, for your last example, its to avoid a run-in with Johnny Law. Tons of people run red lights, especially in big cities. People also floor it through when the light is barely red or has just turned red. The only thing that stops people are the cameras and police.

Yet gun advocates insist that people do NOT try to try to reduce risk and avoid unnecessary danger.
Yeah, because they don't. This has nothing to do with me being a gun advocate. Your statement "people try to avoid danger" is false no matter what I support. "People" as a whole clearly do not, period. Legislators in the Nanny State do, but people do not.

That would only show how weak their argument is.
Again, this is an argument that doesn't logically add up. It's basically, "here's premise A, which clearly means this statement, though they are not in the least related". Saying that people do not try to always try to avoid danger (which they don't) 1) has nothing to do with guns in any way, 2) does not support any arguments besides the one claiming that statement is false, 3) is not a weak or strong argument in and of itself for anything.
 
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