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Palin abused power

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  • #41
you want proof of media biased?..........had any REAL journalist been interviewing this guy it would have gone a different way, but since he voted for Obama its ok.....no asking to clarify his statements, no follow up questions....soon as he says he voted a couple times they say thats ok and they kick him off camera........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSvHRClwrmU

Isn't that just poor journalism?

xvart.
 
  • #42
poor journalism.....biased........how do yah separate them? any half way decent reporter would have gone into it cause if true it has the makings of a story that you can make a name on.....course if yah didnt want to screw with the guy you wanted to win wouldnt touch it.......
 
  • #43
Isn't that just a general technique of journalism? "Soundbytes" - it's what they use to make talk radio.
~Joe
 
  • #44
whats more interesting.....off hand comments or possible proof of voter fraud? which is going to get more viewers?.........and for the record i would love a shot at something like this regardless of candidate......
 
  • #45
poor journalism.....biased........how do yah separate them?

That may be so, but my point was that the journalist being terrible does not mean that he or CNN is biased. Fundamentally, it just means that at the very least, CNN hired poor journalists, or doesn't set high enough expectations on them. My point was that you can't infer that all media (or even CNN) is biased based off one "interview" conducted by someone who shouldn't even be reporting for the high school paper.

xvart.
 
  • #46
than why no follow ups? they got the guys name, got his picture.....the video was done mid day well before any of the polls started closing........
 
  • #47
This should definitely be looked into. Voter fraud is serious, regardless of who the candidates are.

I don't see how he could have voted twice though. I thought you needed your voter card, ID, and they kept a list of who has voted already. He could have been just blowing smoke.
 
  • #48
This should definitely be looked into. Voter fraud is serious, regardless of who the candidates are.

I agree. I'm not trying to minimize the problem presented in the "interview," but I almost wonder if they did follow up and didn't report anything because they found he was just blowing smoke and/or there was nothing to the story and/or the news is filled with "more important" stuff right now. I can see how the last thing I mentioned may play into the media bias argument, but it is still weak in my opinion. However, coupled with other examples, it would be more legitimate.

I don't see how he could have voted twice though. I thought you needed your voter card, ID, and they kept a list of who has voted already. He could have been just blowing smoke.

I also agree; although as Scot said, he didn't even have to show his ID. Again, I'm not trying to minimize anything or raise a ruckus, but from the context of what he was already saying about waiting in line, or the line was to long so he left and came back. Maybe he meant he came to vote multiple times? If this was the case, and CNN did follow up, it just might not have been sensational enough to break the headlines and boost ratings. I know that is a lot of "ifs," but it is a possibility. I for one would love to see more about this.

xvart.
 
  • #49
I take the video as indicating coming back to vote because the line was so long each time he arrived though he appeared to word it inappropriately. The reporter not following up is just his own mishandling of a misstatement, send an email to CNN and have them clarify it.

I didn't show my ID to the voter registry either but I did have to sign in. If I came back a second time I wouldn't have anywhere to sign in.
 
  • #50
Swords has a plausible interpretation. The video probably doesn’t show voter fraud.

Since Palin was being isolated from reporters, any reporter would have given his right (or left) arm for the opportunity to interview her. The McCain campaign hand picked Couric, presumably because she had a reputation as a lightweight. Maybe she used the opportunity to toughen up her image. In any case, according to reports, Palin did not prepare for the interview. And it showed. Any reporter who saw the interview or otherwise observed Palin would have formed an opinion of her. Maybe some people might call it reporter bias, but it was a bias not in the meaning of prejudice, but in the meaning of disfavor based on fact.
 
  • #51
The video probably doesn’t show voter fraud.
Oh yes it DOES, just look at the way he's smiling! He knows he's finally pulled one over on whitey! lol! ;)

I'm just being silly, but I'm sure plenty of folks in "Real America" probably believe that.
 
  • #52
I didn't show my ID to the voter registry either but I did have to sign in. If I came back a second time I wouldn't have anywhere to sign in.

but without an ID you could give a different name and address and vote for someone else......i had to present ID to someone ive known 20 years before i could vote...
 
  • #53
Yes, because the risk of Federal prison and the loss of a right to vote is soooo worth getting to vote 2 or three times with the Electoral college in place and having a 95% chance of being caught doing something that leaves a black and white paper trail in the process and is so easy to catch, everyone who wants to see what incarceration is like first hand does it. I committed voter fraud 12 times myself cause I like jail so much XD.

Voter fraud doesn't exist. Election fraud does.
 
  • #54
but without an ID you could give a different name and address and vote for someone else..
That's true you could try to get in more than once but in a town like mine (and the way I look) they would surely recognize me almost immediately. However, I didn't get asked even though I had all my ID stuff with me in the book I'd brought to read while waiting in line because of 2004. New registering voters however did have all their ID stuff with them and were showing them at sign in. At least the people I was standing next to to at the voter sign in registry were doing so. Here you can register on the same day as voting, but I guess it's not like that in other places. I think same-day registration should be adopted everywhere if we really are serious about getting everyone to participate. But anyway, seems that since I was already in the book I was simply waved through.
 
  • #55
The Secret Service has blamed Sarah Palin for the death threats against Obama. Agents said that her repeated questioning of his patriotism resulted in death threats from white supremacists. During the campaign Palin accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists,” citing his association with Bill Ayers. However, the closest relationship between Obama and Ayers is that they both sat on a board of a non-profit agency.

More here.


Sarah Palin blamed the Bush administration for the defeat of the McCain/Palin ticket. Maybe she forgot her own advice to herself that she repeated several times during the vice-presidential debate -- that she didn't want to look backward, but to look forward.

More here.

Voters were right in rejecting Sarah Palin and the candidate who chose her.
 
  • #56
dude your reaching....Obama's patriotism has been in question since early in the primaries.........thinking that Palin is the one that set off white supremacists is idiotic.....they were ticked off LONG before Palin shows up.....thats just idiotic the supremacists hate him and have hated him cause he is black not because of a darn thing Palin said........

of course they lost cause of Bush's administration......if Bush hadnt been such an idiot it wouldnt been as difficult to get a republican elected......you have to have tunnel vision to not think Bush's administration wasnt a major factor......
 
  • #57
Sarah who?

xvart.
 
  • #58
Obama's patriotism has been in question since early in the primaries.

What is the basis for questioning Obama's patriotism? His name?

thinking that Palin is the one that set off white supremacists is idiotic.....they were ticked off LONG before Palin shows up.....thats just idiotic the supremacists hate him and have hated him cause he is black not because of a darn thing Palin said.

Of course the white supremacists were upset that an African American became the Democratic nominee for president. And Palin's speeches made them even madder.

of course they lost cause of Bush's administration......if Bush hadnt been such an idiot it wouldnt been as difficult to get a republican elected......you have to have tunnel vision to not think Bush's administration wasnt a major factor......

Bush was only implementing Republican policies, such as the aggressive use of military force and laissez faire capitalism. Bush was a disciple of trickle down economics, whereby a torrent of tax breaks is given to big corporations and rich folk, and some of the benefits trickle down to the rest of the 95% of us (assuming that you're not in the upper 5%). Obama was smart enough to tie McCain to Bush and to show that McCain's positions on the economy were substantially the same as Bush's policies.
 
  • #59
MSNBC retracts false Palin story; others duped

By DAVID BAUDER – 1 day ago

NEW YORK (AP) — MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the network said Wednesday.

David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a Fox News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.

Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.

The Eisenstadt claim had mistakenly been delivered to Shuster by a producer and was used in a political discussion Monday afternoon, MSNBC said.

"The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. "We recognized the error almost immediately and ran a correction on air within minutes."

Gaines told the Times that someone in the network's newsroom had presumed the information solid because it was passed along in an e-mail from a colleague.

The hoax was limited to the identity of the source in the story about Palin — not the Fox News story itself. While Palin has denied that she mistook Africa for a country, the veracity of that report was not put in question by the revelation that Eisenstadt is a phony.

Eisenstadt's "work" had been quoted and debunked before. The Huffington Post said it had cited Eisenstadt in July on a story regarding the Hilton family and McCain.

Among the other victims were political blogs for the Los Angeles Times and The New Republic, each of which referenced false material from Eisenstadt's blog.

And in July, Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones magazine blogged an item about Eisenstadt speaking on Iraqi television about a casino in Baghdad's "Green Zone."

Stein later realized he'd been had.

"Kudos to the inventor of this whole thing," Stein wrote. "My only consolation is that if I had as much time on my hands as he clearly does, I probably would have figured this out and saved myself a fair amount of embarrassment."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jiO_hn-5SfG9hdADHuRZ6hEDqNRAD94DQU5O0
 
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