Is this legal?

[Trapper7]

I went to the gas station today (Cirlce K) and I was paying when I looked over and saw pornography DVD's being sold on a rack right next to me. Not behind a curtain, not even behind the counter, but right there where every adult and child can see. And this was not soft porn either. There were so many of them! Is it legal to have it be out in the open like that?? I really don't think this is right

 

[Dimka]

I don't think it is... even here, in NY, such things are always separated to some secluded part of a shop or even covered...

 

[rattler]

depends on state law...................legal in Montana

 

[Trapper7]

I don't know if it's legal here in FL. All I know is that it should be illegal in every state. Kids shouldn't be able to see that!

 

[DrWurm]

On the other hand, did you notice the cover on this month's issue of JU-- nevermind....

 

[swords]

In MN graphic media is sold behind the counter as well as on the open newsstand, usually at the top out of kids' reach. Some newsstands do have a separate room as well if they have the space.

My feeling is that it's only sex. If you have to discuss what "that" is to your kids, be glad for the opportunity to talk to them if they should ask a genuine question. My parents never shied away from discussing anything when I asked a question. I feel people should put aside the religion fueled shame and stigma about sex, there is nothing inherently dirty or evil about the human body or sexuality. If it's a hard topic for you to consider, remember that even your saintly parents "did it" at least once, or else you wouldn't be here.

This anti-sex movement seems to be akin to medieval superstition to me. The 'mystification' of sex appears to be the source of most sex-based psychoses and criminal behavior like **** and child molestation.

As the old saying goes "I'd rather my child accidentally see two people making love than killing each other."

 

[DrWurm]

I believe the stigma roots back to the idea that pagans once considered nudity and sex sacred and the monotheistic religions wanted to separate themselves from the pagans as much as possible. I think that's what it was, don't remember for sure though. It sure is interesting though. We're the only species that makes a big stink about nudity and sex.

 

[swords]

Yes, that's the pattern of our western Aristotelian world. The new establishments most often make the beliefs and values of the older religions evil or wicked, the old gods become the new devils.

Enforcing the new worldview by flame and sword helps a lot too, as Dimka will surely point out sooner or later! lol!

 

[Dimka]

No, no. I don't believe in enforcing new worldview by flame and sword. Forcing people into something new by flame and sword is not right.
Protecting the old on the other hand is worth defending.

 

[swords]

I know, I'm just playing with ya!

But that was the ancient way of spreading the word from east to west with the roman empire and then back to the east in the crusades with the holy roman empire. My mom's family has some crusader from around 1040 or so IIRC. The old family crest of the time was a sword and 3 "infidels" heads beneath it! Definitely heavy metal eh? We had to do some kinda family tree in school, that was the only interesting thing in a long list of poor, bored and uninspired farmers! lol!

 

[Dimka]

I think crusades began a bit later than that, but this is still interesting. I only know my family tree down to 18th century, and all I see there are peasants (some of which were executed for not accepting new worldviews heh).
Crusades were wrong imo... so if you ancestor was a crusader, that means he fought my ancestors on the eastern fonts

 

[DrWurm]

i'm apparently the b@stard great great great great great great grandson of a noble who had an affair with his maid or something.

 

[Dimka]

Lol we should start like "tell us about your ancestors" thread

 

[swords]

You're right my book on the crusades that I can reach says the crusades were from 1096 - 1291. So then I'm not sure what battle inspired the crest, or even that my memory of the date is correct, it may have been 1140. I did that report in seventh grade, maybe some 25 years ago? lol! The Mormons in my extended family on the west coast are big into genealogy and sent heaps of this stuff to my grandmother.

For another weird synchronicity, I released an album on my old record label (Dark Age Productions) of Proscriptor (drummer for ABSU) who on the record did some tracks about the "aliens" who invaded and killed his (scottish) clan the McGoverns, it was my family's clan the Campbell's in the 1200s! he he!

What WAS the topic of this thread again?? lol!

 

[Kayota]

i don't get the whole sex taboo. sex is sex, what does it hurt to see it? nobody banned dogs having it in the street. not saying people should do it in the street, but the point is don't worry about it, your kids won't even know what it is probably

 

[Nepenthusiast]

Dimka, we're probably related if your ancestors fought crusaders! My ancestry is 25% Middle Eastarn. I'm sure there were some Muslim warriors in their somewhere.
I'm the grand nephew of the first female PhD graduate in science in Sweden. Nepfreak is the great-great-great grand nephew of President Hayes or something like that. We could make another thread but I'm just gonna hijack this one.

 

[Dimka]

I don't think we are related. My ancestors are from North East of Europe - aka Russia. Crusaders came there a few times as well (more of a "missionary trip"), spreading the good word and love of God by fire and sword, executing monastics and clergy as heretics and so on. In the end it got too cold and they were crushed (one of the more famous battles took place on a frozen lake in April, I think, the crusaders' armor was heavy so the ice broke and most of them sunk).
Our ancestors probably fought too then... Middle East... Ottoman Empire... Who knows

 

[swords]

Hassan I Sabah or the Old Man of the Mountain was the leader of the Hashishim or Assassins during the crusades. He would drug new converts of his cause with hashish and have them brought into a beautiful palace, a "paradise" of food, women and everything they'd been promised in scripture and his own propaganda. As they awoke in this "paradise" they would believe he had been able to deliver his word that he could indeed deliver them to paradise. They would again be drugged in a later meal in this manufactured paradise and taken outside. When they again awoke those who fell at his feet he knew were his true fighters. This is a common generalization of the story.

I always wondered what happened to the ones who suspected they'd been deceived... lol!

 

[Dimka]

Hashish is smoked, its weed. So I don't see how they could have been drugged without their knowledge.

 

[upper]

how do you guys know about your great great great great great great great ancestor? does your parent keep record of it or something?