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Wistuba, McPherson, Nerz and Fleischmann....
oh my, this can only mean.... yes, the Aztecs were correct LOL, the heli world as we know it is gone forever!!!

oh and hell just froze over LOL

http://www.redfernnaturalhistory.com/books/name/sarraceniaceae_of_south_america

WOW!

Heliamphora arenicola
Heliamphora ceracea
Heliamphora collina
Heliamphora chimantensis
Heliamphora ciliata
Heliamphora elongata
Heliamphora exappendiculata
Heliamphora folliculata
Heliamphora glabra
Heliamphora heterodoxa
Heliamphora hispida
Heliamphora huberi
Heliamphora ionasi
Heliamphora macdonaldae
Heliamphora minor
--- Heliamphora minor var. minor
--- Heliamphora minor var. pilosa
Heliamphora neblinae
Heliamphora nutans
Heliamphora parva
Heliamphora pulchella
--- Heliamphora pulchella Incompletely diagnosed taxon from Amurí Tepui (undescribed)
Heliamphora purpurascens
Heliamphora sarracenioides
Heliamphora tatei
Heliamphora uncinata
Heliamphora sp. ‘Angasima Tepui’
Heliamphora sp. ‘Akopán Tepui’
All known naturally occurring Heliamphora hybrids

:drool:

I guess its ok to post this now....

Allow me to introduce you to Heliamphora ceracea

From an undesclosed source some time back...

Hi Av

I just wanted to say what fantastic photos of a fantastic specimen of Heliamphora you have posted.

I thought I would let you know that this species is not H. neblinae any more, although it is indeed found on Mt Neblina. It is, in fact, the only Heliamphora yet discovered to be found wholly in Brazil. Its new name is Heliamphora ceracea, meaning waxy.

Please keep this name quiet for now as it is still not officially named, but will be shortly.


Name withheld

Av

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We are in for some major changes for sure, I wonder if Andreas Fleischmann included his Heliamphora DNA research?.... surely for this he has.

geeze.... I want a copy, NOW
 
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oh that looks awesome! So they are going to change the name of Heliamphora neblina?
 
neblina was a very confused species...no one really agreed what made a neblinae a neblinae
you had McPherson's neblinae and Wistuba's neblinae, and both seemed to conflict

hopefully, issues like this are now cleared up somewhat....
 
I know what I'm asking for for christmas!!
 
Awesome! Gonna have to check that out for sure.
 
aweesoommeee... Im so buying this.
 
Yes! The cat is finally out of the bag! And H. ceracea is on my wantlist. Does this mean akopan and angasima have gotten their species designations as well? So exciting! I'll be buying this book as well!

ehh....i just saw that akopan and angasima still are awaiting scientific names still. :oops:
 
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and parva is now its own species?... and wth is purpurascens? minor var. pilosa? arenicola? ...etc

so much new all at once, and all the main sources in agreement finally? omg woohoo... look out the window maw, I see pigs flying and its not a pink floyd concert :p

finally one ring... errrr book that binds them all LOL
 
Wow! That is going to be a sweet read. It sounds like a lot in the Heliamphora world just got straightened out.

But I still need to get the Pitcher plants of the Old World books before I get this one. :lol:
 
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@av8: well, i though i heavily hinted on that when i kept on saying "i want parva" instead of "i want neblinae var parva..." well, i guess that's a good thing anyways. :p
 
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Amp, may a deranged holy man sit on your fez :p
 
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@av8: you say that as if that were a bad thing.... first of all deranged and holy used to described the same person---is that even possible?

secondly, if he's holy, that must mean he's super clean, and pure, or whatever---which means, when he finally gets off my head, i'd end up with a halo. win.
 
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another email, and yep... there are two books in this series



Attached are photographs of the twenty four new species, varieties and forms of American pitcher plants that are described in Sarraceniaceae of North America and Sarraceniaceae of South America.



This two volume monograph provides the first complete study of the full diversity, ecology and taxonomy of all recognised species of the three genera of Sarraceniaceae (Darlingtonia, Heliamphora and Sarracenia).



Sarraceniaceae of South America examines all species of Heliamphora from the Guiana Highlands of Venezuela, Brazil and Guyana, including five new Heliamphora species along with three incompletely diagnosed Heliamphora taxa that have not been documented previously.



Sarraceniaceae of North America examines all species of Darlingtonia and Sarracenia from the United States and Canada, including eighteen new Sarracenia varieties and forms, one incompletely diagnosed Sarracenia taxon, and one new form of Darlintonia.



Complete with up-to-date conservation assessments, distribution maps and accounts of the diversity, wild ecology and habitats of all species, this monograph is a major and definitive taxonomic revision of all three genera of true pitcher plants of the New World.



Below is a complete listing of the spectacular plants that feature in this work:



Sarraceniaceae of South America



Heliamphora arenicola - described in this work

Heliamphora ceracea - described in this work

Heliamphora chimantensis

Heliamphora ciliata

Heliamphora collina - described in this work

Heliamphora elongata

Heliamphora exappendiculata

Heliamphora folliculata

Heliamphora glabra

Heliamphora heterodoxa

Heliamphora hispida

Heliamphora huberi

Heliamphora ionasi

Heliamphora macdonaldae

Heliamphora minor

H. minor var. minor

H. minor var. pilosa

Heliamphora neblinae

Heliamphora nutans

Heliamphora parva - described in this work

Heliamphora pulchella

H. pulchella ‘Incompletely diagnosed taxon from Amurí Tepui’

Heliamphora purpurascens - described in this work

Heliamphora sarracenioides

Heliamphora tatei

Heliamphora uncinata

Heliamphora sp. ‘Angasima Tepui’

Heliamphora sp. ‘Akopán Tepui’



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Sarraceniaceae of North America



Darlingtonia californica

D. californica f. californica

D. californica f. viridiflora - described in this work



Sarracenia alata

S. alata var. alata

S. alata var. atrorubra - described in this work

S. alata var. cuprea - described in this work

S. alata var. nigropurpurea - described in this work

S. alata var. ornata - described in this work

S. alata var. rubrioperculata - described in this work

S. alata f. viridescens - described in this work

Sarracenia flava

S. flava var. flava

S. flava var. atropurpurea

S. flava var. cuprea

S. flava var. maxima

S. flava var. ornata

S. flava var. rubricorpora

S. flava var. rugelii

S. flava f. viridescens - described in this work

Sarracenia leucophylla

S. leucophylla var. leucophylla

S. leucophylla var. alba - described in this work

S. leucophylla f. viridescens - described in this work

Sarracenia minor

S. minor var. minor

S. minor var. minor f. viridescens - described in this work

S. minor var. okefenokeensis

Sarracenia oreophila

S. oreophila var. oreophila

S. oreophila var. ornata - described in this work

Sarracenia psittacina

S. psittacina var. psittacina

S. psittacina var. psittacina f. viridescens - described in this work

S. psittacina var. okefenokeensis

S. psittacina var. okefenokeensis f. luteoviridis - described in this work

Sarracenia purpurea

S. purpurea ssp. purpurea

S. purpurea ssp. purpurea f. heterophylla

S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. venosa

S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. venosa f. pallidiflora - described in this work

S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. burkii

S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. burkii f. luteola

S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. montana

Sarracenia rubra

S. rubra ssp. rubra

S. rubra ssp. alabamensis

S. rubra ssp. gulfensis

S. rubra ssp. gulfensis f. luteoviridis - described in this work

S. rubra ssp. jonesii

S. rubra ssp. jonesii f. viridescens - described in this work

S. rubra ssp. wherryi

S. rubra ‘Incompletely diagnosed taxon from Georgia and South Carolina’
 
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  • #15
Thanks for the link...I now know what I will be getting for my Bday/Xmas :woot:
 
  • #16
I basically just begged parents and wifey for a signed copy! Butch you are correct sir. Mega drools!
 
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sounds like certain cultivars might have ended up getting demoted/promoted however you look at it...some that come up to mind include: S. leucophylla 'Hurricane Creek' and S. minor 'Okeefenokee Giant' which in turn have become: S. leucophylla var. alba and S. minor var. okefenokeensis. also looks like S. psittacina golfballensis also got a real name too: S. psittacina var. okefenokeensis.

i feel sorry for the peeps that are OCD and have extensive Sarracenia collections....
 
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I saw a picture of a plant called psittacina var. okefenokeensis and the plant itself just seemed larger, the heads wasn't all puffy and swollen like they would be in "golfballensis"...so confusing.

BUT THIS LOOKS SO EXCITING AND I WANT SO BADDDDDDDDD.
So much money though u.u"


Also....in the notes it only says some are described in that book...does that mean there's another book with all the rest described or what?
 
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Yes, now i can stop calling it H."Fuzzy Socks" LOL

Heliamphora-minor-var.-pilosa-2.jpg


My new " holy grail" heliamphora





me want!
:p
 
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