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    Should the location of newly discovered species remain hidden?

    A sad, but true, reality that pervades all hobbies involving organisms:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17386764


    I decided not to post this in the reptile section so that more people would be willing to read it.

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    Good idea for a debate.

    Very depressing fact that newly discovered species are almost always pounced on by poachers just after discovery.

    Perhaps live specimens could be taken by the discoverer and bred then given away to breeders. This may reduce wild collection pressures. It is done with plants, so why not with reptiles and amphibians?
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    Ugh! Poachers and smugglers ought to be shot on sight but really if people just wouldn't buy these things there wouldn't be poachers or smugglers in the first place.

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    I think that would only be beneficial if it were coupled with a few years of breeding before any mention of the species was made public.

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    No matter how much breeding of this species there will always be people collecting them from the wild for the pet trade/food market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aric View Post
    No matter how much breeding of this species there will always be people collecting them from the wild for the pet trade/food market.
    Does this mean you're in favor of the location data being withheld?

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    I think the locations should remain hidden unless the species is in and around an immediate danger and needs protection in which case publicity of some kind might be best.
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    Absolutely, but it will never be kept quiet. Which I guess is the whole point of the article.

    I live in an area where salamanders are plentiful. Certain ponds/areas yield certain species. Over the years more and more "professionals" have been told about these ponds, which your average park visitor isn't going to just stumble over. You can now find them for sale on online classified ads as wild collected animals. Last week I went to these areas to get some photographs, each and every rock/log was thrown about or destroyed. Not a single animal was found but the same day 2 of the species I used to find there were now for sale on an online classified ad as wild collected from a "business" known for collecting animals from my area.

    So no matter how secret someone tries to keep a location, there will always be those who know about the location and used to do this type of work for the benefit of the species, but now just see the dollar signs involved.

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