User Tag List

Informational! Informational!:  0
Likes Likes:  2
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: When nepenthes get crossed

  1. #1

    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    55
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    When nepenthes get crossed

    When a highland gets crossed with a lowland does it become a
    leaning towards lowland temp hybrid or
    will it become a highland plant?
    Does the mother plant dictate it or the male?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  2. #2
    hcarlton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Greeley, CO, USA
    Posts
    4,027
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Plants will tend to lean toward the maternal parent, but this depends entirely on localities used, the individual plants that result and what preferences they just happen to end up with, and just how "highland" or "lowland" or adaptive the parent species are.
    Everything has a reason, whether big or small. Never underestimate the power of what is or is not.
    There is far more to everything than meets the eye.
    Growlist

  3. #3
    Aristoloingulamata Dexenthes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Southern Tongass Rainforest, Alaska
    Posts
    3,725
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It seems to be kind of a crap-shoot in a way. Some species are very dominant within hybrids while others seem recessive.

    For instance N. ampullaria crosses tend to be lowlanders and still require mostly lowland conditions. They also tend to look very much like ampullaria. I have been growing a clipeata cross for a couple of months now in highland conditions and it is unphased.

    There doesn't seem to be any definitive rhyme or reason as to how a hybrid will behave in terms of preferences and traits displayed.

    I would be wary of any rules or guidelines that can be followed when Nepenthes crosses are concerned.

    When N. hamata hybrids first started hitting the market I remember a lot of people were disgruntled and dismissing the fact that they had hamata genes in them because the teeth weren't as pronounced as people would have liked. That's just the nature of the genus though, it is relatively diverse and we don't know how all the different combinations of genes and traits will express themselves when they are crossed together.

    If you have experience with a certain cross, it helps to share it with other growers so we can have an idea of how that plant performs.
    LOOKING FOR: N. (argentii x bicalcarata) x {[(lingulata x edwardsiana) x (naga x hamata)] x [(klossii x undulatifolia) x (aristolochioides x rajah)]} Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

  4. #4
    nepenthesl0ve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Posts
    205
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    hamata crosses are amazing as long as you dont go into it expecting true hamata teeth. the peristomes rarely disappoint

    it would seem that hybrids are more forgiving than the species even if something like an amp hybrid leans lowland. it can deal with highland conditions and not be too upset with me.
    lover of toothy species and hybrids

    Growlist

    highland tent

  5. #5

    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    55
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thanks for the responses. It seems to be trial and error then with new crosses.
    What temps they like
    Speaking of Hamata. I wonder why the highlanders are the only cool, mean, toothy nepenthes are.
    Rarely a boring looking highlander


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  6. #6
    Grey Moss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    1,690
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Part of it is that highland habitats become highly isolated from each other due to the geography. Plenty of species are restricted to just a few mountains or even a single peak. With so much isolation populations have been able to diverge with little genetic material being passed back to each other.

Similar Threads

  1. Just Crossed These Two P.laueana Clones.......
    By Cthulhu138 in forum Butterwort (Pinguicula)
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 07-09-2015, 06:39 PM
  2. Fingers crossed for my N. villosa!
    By fly-catchers in forum Tropical Pitcher Plants  (Nepenthes)
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 02-06-2013, 11:29 AM
  3. crossed petiolaris gr. in TC
    By klasac in forum Sundews (Drosera), Byblis, Drosophyllum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-19-2012, 03:24 PM
  4. variation in back-crossed hybrids
    By srduggins in forum Tropical Pitcher Plants  (Nepenthes)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-20-2010, 11:01 AM
  5. Smallest nepenthes crossed with a rajah
    By carcinos in forum Tropical Pitcher Plants  (Nepenthes)
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 12-14-2002, 02:09 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •