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    Even with the greatest resources that the world has to offer it is difficult to know what to do about a huge ship filled with multi-national passengers some of whom are infected with a disease that is not well understood but considered very dangerous. If the cruise ship were anchored in another country how likely is it that the experiences of the passengers and the ultimate results would be better? But I do understand the frustrations of those involved. Theirs is a very difficult situation and certainly not what they expected. It just seems unfair to take it out on the Japanese government, who is doing what they can to improve the situation. 'Just my opinion.
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    Safety tips

    At the moment no one wants to go to Japan, although I'm living as usual for now.
    If you are a healthy and brave young man/woman, you still might come to Japan. If you are not young or have any health problem(s), you have a high risk of seriousness.
    When you arrive in Japan, please install an application on your cell phone.
    You will have access to information in various languages in times of disaster.
    Safety tips
    Android:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tyTips.android
    iPhone:
    https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/safe...858357174?mt=8

    Through the app, the Japan Tourism Agency automatically sends you international visitors early warnings about earthquakes, tsunamis, severe weather, volcanic eruptions, and ballistic missiles (please go to https://www.cpukforum.com/forum/inde...comment-397879 and https://www.cpukforum.com/forum/inde...comment-397875). You can also check how to evacuate. And you can get contact information for hospitals.
    The Safety tips service is provided in eleven languages: English, Chinese, Korean, Spanish, Portuguese, Vietnamese, Thai, Indonesian, Tagalog, Nepali and Japanese. The agency plans to add Khmer, Burmese, and Mongolian by the end of March in 2020.

    Another risk other than health issues.
    As of today, the number of people infected in Japan is about 300 (excluding those infected on the cruise ship. I am very sorry that some of the cruise ship passengers have died.). The number of infected people is increasing daily but sporadic. I don't know why Japan is not going to be like what is happening in Italy or Korea for the moment. One theory states that they simply did not test for enough virus infection. This week, virus testing seems to be covered by insurance. Japan has adopted the system of the public health insurance for the whole nation. The Japanese people usually pay 10% to 30% of medical expenses. High medical costs are capped and are exempted based on income. Until now, inspections were conducted free of charge by government agencies, but the inspection capacity (number) per day was low. This cover will increase the number of tests per day as private laboratories enter the testing service and the government will cover the out-of-pocket expenses. The inspection capacity of private inspection organizations in Japan is said to be tens of thousands to 200,000 per day. But so far, looking at the situation in the city, not much will be tested. If many people are screened, tens of thousands of infected people might be found. Or we might find that there are not many infected people.
    What I would like to say:
    The situation can change suddenly and dramatically. Maybe you will enjoy your stay in Japan. But if things change during your stay, you may be quarantined in your home country for two weeks. If you are a student, the damage may be small. If you are an adult, the damage may be great.

    May the United States succeed to contain the COVID-19!

    p.s.
    The Japanese government just announced: Request that people entering from China and South Korea be quarantined for two weeks at locations (facilities?) designated by the Japanese government.
    Last edited by Lechenaultia; 03-05-2020 at 06:04 AM.

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    We can hope that now another cruise ship containing infected passengers is stuck in limbo, in California this time, that we have learned enough to do the best that is possible for everyone. It seems a poor time for world traveling but things will ultimately improve and normalcy will re-establish. Let's hope that it happens before the Olympics, not to mention the International Carnivorous Plant Society meeting coming up soon.

    I am impressed by the app that the Japanese government has developed!
    - Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemax View Post
    We can hope that now another cruise ship containing infected passengers is stuck in limbo, in California this time, that we have learned enough to do the best that is possible for everyone. It seems a poor time for world traveling but things will ultimately improve and normalcy will re-establish. Let's hope that it happens before the Olympics, not to mention the International Carnivorous Plant Society meeting coming up soon.

    I am impressed by the app that the Japanese government has developed!
    Dear Bluemax-san,

    Konnichiwa!

    The United States government seems to choose to segregate cruise ship passengers onboard.
    One of the reasons the Japanese government chose onboard isolation was at the request of the United States government.
    I don't have the knowledge to determine if the US government's choice was right. The cruise ship at Yokohama Port is registered in the UK, but the operating company is the same as the cruise ship off California. Better zoning may be possible through discussions with doctors and infectious disease specialists, who had worked on the cruise ship (at Yokohama Port), the operating company and the US government.
    It seems better to replace the cooks and crews who bring food to each room, if some of them are suspected to be infected.

    Kind regards from the Far East

    EDIT
    I seem to have misunderstood. The passengers seem to be able to get off the ship.
    I am sorry for that.
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    A messy situation, and information coming out of it could be a lot clearer. Now there seems to be a discussion as to where the ship now anchored off of San Francisco will end up. The implication is that a military port will accept them but none, as of this writing, has been announced.
    - Mark

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    Probably the first information I got was based on the President's statement. The second one would have been based on the statement of the Vice President.
    I hope that the passengers and crew will get adequate care. I hope they can get not only antivirus care but also mental care.

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