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    Okay, the evolution topic has turned into something too rarified and too frenetic for my taste. Especially since it's, after all, only academic.

    So... let's discuss something with real repercussions: the formation of antibiotic-resistant bacteria through improper, inadequate, and even proper usage of antibiotics and other antimicrobials. To my knowledge, this is not a point of debate any more (much like global warming), but rather an established fact. What that means is that everyone should either consider it an unimportant threat, be very concerned about it, or have a "not in my lifetime" stance.

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    I say use anti-biotics sparingly! I let my body fight off such infections like Influenza. I haven't gotten a shot in my life and I most certainly don't intend to do so, the more your body is able to produce memory cells to defend against the invaders the better off you are.

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    I like having an immune system. No germ fear here. I take no precautions against getting sick and I don't remember the last time I was.

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    i agree its going to be an extreamly serious problem within the next 10-15 years. it is already a serious problem. penicilin used to kill every bug out there, now its no perscribed to often cause it doesnt work very well anymore. i cant say i have never had a shot. i have had steroid and allergy shots for my asthma. i generally get flu shots do to my asthma which can seriously compromise things. had a tetnus shot a couple months ago after i sliced open my hand. but i dont go to the doc unless the problem is serious and definatly dont demand meds if the problem turns out to be a virus.

    lots of rest, lots of fluids. if your worried about the flu, get a flu shot they do work.
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    I agree with basically everything said before except for the shot thing (I was little and i couldn't decide..) and I WOULD get shots because that has no bad effects. They don't give you things to kill the pathogen (unless it's an antibodies shot... and even then it doesn't make the pathogen stronger... at least not to my knowledge). Most shots give you weakened pathogens so that you can make your own memory cells to fight them off when you come in contact with healthy pathogens.
    and I do remember last time I was sick... a year ago I had a flu for about 4 days [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
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    Well, flu shot's are different -no?-. To the best of my knowledge, that's ok as well as other vaccinations which simply contain a non-virulent strain of a virus. That functions to strengthen your immune system because of memory cells yadda yadda... One of the major problems is definitly over use, but there is also misuse. For example, there's the classic case of someone getting prescribed some antibiotics and they stop taking them as soon as they feel better which is BAD because then you allow ones with some resistance to that particular antibiotic to live and thrive -no competition with all of those other bacteria that just got wiped out-. If we look at this trend, we soon see AB (AntiBiotic was getting too long for me :P) resitance turning to immunity, and that immunity can transfer to other bacteria from there. There was a news article about something like this that I'll have to dig up and see if it says anything useful, or atleast to brush up. A lot of the blame isn't to be put on doc's though, there've been cases where groundwater has gotten contaminated with ABs from farms that use them for their animals- so not only did people ingest them from eating the meat products, but from drinking water as well [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img]... So, I definitly agree with the posters above, if you can, just take the brunt of it, get your rest and let thigns run its course- don't get me wrong though, if "running its course" could kill you, then please, by all means, take the ABs.
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    I didn't mean I don't get ANY shots, just don't believe in Flu shots. I think they are a waste of money, let your body fend for itself, its perfectly capable of defending itself if you follow through with practical hygeine and stay away from those that are ill!

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    Nep G, kinda hard to do if yah have kids. you would have to home school, not allow the kids to go to Sunday school and all that. like i said i get flu shots do to my asthma. some of the strains of influenza flying around can easily turn into pneumonia for ppl like me whos lungs are already comprimised. for the average healthy not getting a flu shot MAY just mean missing a couple days of work, no biggy. and yes i realize flu shots only protect against a handful of the some of the projected worst strains of the THOUSANDS out there.
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